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11-27-2008, 05:37 PM | #21 |
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Re: Korean awards - full set!
Here's a picture of Kim Jong Il in the same uniform to accompany the above Kim Il Sung pic. You are correct about the Marshal's star; in Korean, they call him Wonsu, which is like a Marshal of the Soviet Union or else one symbolic rank higher (I forget which). It might seem ridiculous for someone from such a small country to have such a high rank until you consider how huge their military is (fourth largest in the world).
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11-27-2008, 06:24 PM | #22 | |
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Re: Korean awards - full set!
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11-28-2008, 07:11 AM | #23 |
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Re: Korean awards - full set!
Ah, yes--I'd forgotten about the Generalissimo of the Soviet Union rank; that would be equivalent to Kim's rank, I believe. I think that I actually discovered the Wonsu (Daewonsu?) rank while reading up on the GSU rank. I seem to recall having read that the idea was to outrank any Marshal of the Soviet Union, or any other military commander elsewhere in the world, for that matter.
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11-28-2008, 12:42 PM | #24 |
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Re: Korean awards - full set!
Kim Il-sung was marshal since the Korean War. A grade of vice-marshal was also created in 53 for Choi Yong-gun. In april 92, Kim Jong-il and O Jin-u (vice-marshal since 85) became marshals and Kim Il-sung grand marshal.
The difference between Kim Jr. and the others marshals is subtle: he is marshal of the DPRK, the others, marshals of the KPA. |
11-28-2008, 02:46 PM | #25 |
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Re: Korean awards - full set!
I found a little unsourced info about the Dae Wonsu rank. Of possible interest, there is an additional crest on the Marshal's star.
Dae Wonsu - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
11-29-2008, 01:21 AM | #26 |
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Re: Korean awards - full set!
Wow, that is an insane amount of medals.
You think those dress uniforms double as flak jackets? |
12-22-2009, 03:41 PM | #27 |
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Re: Some NK uniforms (Help appreciated)
I was quite frustrated by the lack of info about north korean uniforms. Since the nineties, I collect pictures and I have made a sort of database, in fact a series of plates of all the uniforms I have meet.
I have choose to post 2 of these plates (work in progress): 1-Marshal, vice-marshal and generals in parade, everyday and service dress (the parade cap of the vice-marshal (2nd from the left) is now obsolete, the gold collar tab of the last general is also obsolete) 2-Admirals, parade, everyday and service, winter and summer. I'm not an artist nor very computer-capable, don’t be too severe for the techniques I have used (real painting and photoshop). |
12-22-2009, 05:30 PM | #28 | |
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12-22-2009, 07:18 PM | #29 |
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Re: Some NK uniforms (Help appreciated)
Kliment,
Great job, quite well done! Doug Last edited by DougD; 12-22-2009 at 07:21 PM. |
12-23-2009, 08:31 AM | #30 |
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Re: Some NK uniforms (Help appreciated)
When he had met President Clinton, the vice-marshal Jo myong-Rok still wore the old style cap embroidery. Below a picture of the new style (less sophisticated).
Some more pictures: trench- and greatcoats for marshals and generals, air force generals. |
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