Fake Order And Medal Booklets - Page 38

RedMaestro2 · 03-05-2011, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lapa

RedMaestro,

IMHO, first entry is :thumbsup but the second one is :thumbsdown

Only way to tell for sure is to order the UK on the first ORS.

Marc

Hi Marc,

I thought that was the case. Thanks for confirming.

Any idea what the notation "N 205/207" means? I've never seen that before.

Thanks again! :thumbsup

Alex

Shocktrooper · 03-10-2011, 03:32 PM

Hi,

how about this one ?

Jens

Lapa · 03-10-2011, 06:35 PM

Jens,

It looks OK to me.

Marc

EricFG · 03-10-2011, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedMaestro2

Any idea what the notation "N 205/207" means? I've never seen that before. Alex

Was wondering that, myself.

Lapa · 03-11-2011, 02:23 AM

It is the prikaz number.

Marc

rocketscientist · 04-16-2011, 11:50 AM

Hello. Let me continue this thread with another booklet awarding a Red Star.
My impression is about the paper is positive, the order slightly suspicious (it will be shown in the dedicated "fake" section)
What is your opinion?

grazie
sergio

EricFG · 05-05-2011, 09:49 AM

Gents, what say you to this image?
The strong seal and signature, red stamps and strange numbers and their ink make me feel uneasy, while the general wear seems legit. You?

And what I assume to be the cover.

Lapa · 05-05-2011, 11:44 AM

Eric,

IMHO, all the stamps are genuine, but the writing was erased and the SN and dates were replaced.

Marc

Pobeda45 · 05-05-2011, 03:22 PM

Whenever I see a number 9 that looks like a backwards "P" it makes me suspicious. I believe they've only been writing their 9 like this in modern Russia, kind of like how we do in the West. In the 40s, they would always curve the tail on the "9" upwards.

George

EricFG · 05-05-2011, 04:29 PM

Interesting observation, but I see a few 'straight-leg' 9s on the Mondvor site (they have a Ordenskaya Knizhka section for those unaware.)
Another thing that I sometimes notice is awards that probably date well after the lower date in the OK and often they seem to be in the same or similar hand; is that normal?

03-10-2011, 06:35 PM	#373
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	Re: Fake order book? Jens, It looks OK to me. Marc

03-11-2011, 02:23 AM	#375
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	Re: Fake order book? It is the prikaz number. Marc

05-05-2011, 11:44 AM	#378
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	Re: Ordenskaya Knizhka not kosher? Eric, IMHO, all the stamps are genuine, but the writing was erased and the SN and dates were replaced. Marc

05-05-2011, 03:22 PM	#379
Pobeda45 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 605	Re: Ordenskaya Knizhka not kosher? Whenever I see a number 9 that looks like a backwards "P" it makes me suspicious. I believe they've only been writing their 9 like this in modern Russia, kind of like how we do in the West. In the 40s, they would always curve the tail on the "9" upwards. George

05-05-2011, 04:29 PM	#380
EricFG Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Naples, Florida, USA Age: 59 Posts: 1,496	Re: Ordenskaya Knizhka not kosher? Interesting observation, but I see a few 'straight-leg' 9s on the Mondvor site (they have a Ordenskaya Knizhka section for those unaware.) Another thing that I sometimes notice is awards that probably date well after the lower date in the OK and often they seem to be in the same or similar hand; is that normal? __________________ "patina imparts character" - PJS A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.' Last edited by EricFG; 05-06-2011 at 08:40 PM.

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