Translation Help - Page 4

kameli · 04-10-2003, 05:13 AM

I would like to have information about this document.

It was inside the award booklet for the medal for valiant labour (awarded 16th October 1948).

I think that this man was a miner,because in the lot there were also (for the same person):

-the medal for the restoration of donbass coal mines +award card
(awarded 25th April 1948)

-order of the Red Banner of Labour + award booklet (awarded 29th April 1953).

Jussi-Pekka

new world · 04-10-2003, 09:18 AM

Interesting doc!

It says that the recepient was awarded Medal for Labor Merit, but the doc itself has picture of Honored Miner badge.

The doc is signed by the Minister of Mining Industry Zasadko. He was quite famous person, there's huge mining factory in Donbass, Ukraine named after him.

Could this be substitute for the official award book?

Best,

William

Bazanov · 07-19-2003, 05:52 AM

I bought this little book and the seller said it was a document for a engineer of a ship but he was not sure.
Can some one help me?

AlexF. · 07-21-2003, 08:51 AM

That's a diploma for ships mechanic, 2nd rank.

Alex.

sovvisor · 08-04-2003, 08:49 AM

Hi all my friends. I have bought some papers on ebay and I would need some help with translation. There are 2 documents for SMERSH and 2 for NKVD of which one is addressed to Berija.
All help is much appreciated. Please put your reply under the document you are referring to.
Best

Bazanov · 10-14-2003, 09:32 AM

I found these docs and first of all, is it the same person who where awarded these documents?
And what are the documents? Some one said he was a reserve officer in the navy but im not shure...

charlet · 10-14-2003, 10:30 AM

Hi frederik, this is nice set !
Yoy have: an officer booklet (military booklet or voienny billet) to the name of Serguei Dmitrievitch Tudin, for an end of career 1971? (49 old in 1971);
Then his komosomol booklet (he was 14);
And an identification pass for the local comity of the komsomol of the krai of Primorsk (?).

Al-muell · 10-15-2003, 01:49 AM

I would reather say that "Primorskiy Kray" means "region by the sea" (Yes, I know this is tha name of administratinal region in USSR/Russia), but can be mistaken of course.

otlichnik · 10-15-2003, 02:51 AM

Whie primorskiy does mean by the sea, when you see Primorskiy Krai in print like that it always refers to the specific region in Russia and is not translated any more than you would change England to "Land of the Angles" or Novgorod to "New Town".

Shawn

Al-muell · 10-15-2003, 07:22 AM

I understand and am not for translating geographical names (especially that some of them are barely translatable), but this is just a small remark to what Charlet said:
"krai of Primorsk (?)."
what would suggest it is the region near the city of Primorsk (like e.g. "krasnoiarskiy krai") while, as far as I know, it isn't. I don't say it's a mistake, but just want to make it more clear if neccessary.

10-14-2003, 10:30 AM	#7
charlet Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Germany Age: 49 Posts: 791	Hi frederik, this is nice set ! Yoy have: an officer booklet (military booklet or voienny billet) to the name of Serguei Dmitrievitch Tudin, for an end of career 1971? (49 old in 1971); Then his komosomol booklet (he was 14); And an identification pass for the local comity of the komsomol of the krai of Primorsk (?). __________________ Sebastien "a spectre haunts Europe, the spectre of communism" (a well-known german bearbed)

04-10-2003, 09:18 AM	#2
new world Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: NYC, USA Posts: 1,086	Interesting doc! It says that the recepient was awarded Medal for Labor Merit, but the doc itself has picture of Honored Miner badge. The doc is signed by the Minister of Mining Industry Zasadko. He was quite famous person, there's huge mining factory in Donbass, Ukraine named after him. Could this be substitute for the official award book? Best, William

07-21-2003, 08:51 AM	#4
AlexF. Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 65	That's a diploma for ships mechanic, 2nd rank. Alex.

10-15-2003, 01:49 AM	#8
Al-muell Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Wrocław, Poland Posts: 1,828	I would reather say that "Primorskiy Kray" means "region by the sea" (Yes, I know this is tha name of administratinal region in USSR/Russia), but can be mistaken of course.

10-15-2003, 02:51 AM	#9
otlichnik Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Age: 56 Posts: 547	Whie primorskiy does mean by the sea, when you see Primorskiy Krai in print like that it always refers to the specific region in Russia and is not translated any more than you would change England to "Land of the Angles" or Novgorod to "New Town". Shawn

10-15-2003, 07:22 AM	#10
Al-muell Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Wrocław, Poland Posts: 1,828	I understand and am not for translating geographical names (especially that some of them are barely translatable), but this is just a small remark to what Charlet said: "krai of Primorsk (?)." what would suggest it is the region near the city of Primorsk (like e.g. "krasnoiarskiy krai") while, as far as I know, it isn't. I don't say it's a mistake, but just want to make it more clear if neccessary.

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