Award Boxes/Cases. - Page 4

***Art*** · 08-04-2002, 04:36 AM

Alexei,

I also have that same style box with one of my Lenin's. Strange they didn't include some sort of nice insert, similar to the other higher awards. I'm wondering if they were ever in better boxes, then post-war when everything cheapened up a little went to these? My set with this type of box dates from the 1950's, what is yours?

Nota Bene · 08-04-2002, 01:57 PM

Art,

I am sure they must have had other boxes as well, and I don't know when exactly they started using these, but I know that they were used at least from 1942 till 1957. I have had documented Lenins from those dates with names of the recipients tyiped on a strip of paper, glued to the side of the box.

Alexei

Tal Inbar · 08-26-2002, 03:46 PM

You might think about nice little box with velvet etc...but NO:mad:
Just un ugly plastic box:

new world · 08-26-2002, 03:50 PM

Tal,

This box has nothing to do with the KPSU badge.

As you can see from the picture - something else was stored in this box - hence the circular in the padding - and was most likely added by the seller.

Tal Inbar · 08-26-2002, 04:12 PM

I saw this box several times at different sellers.:confused:

new world · 08-26-2002, 04:33 PM

Those boxes were mass produced in the SU to store cheap "zhachki" - pins (which this box was used for - just look at the picture).

The numbers of these cheap boxes made are probably in millions, so I am not surprised that many dealers use them. It's just like us using plastic pocket sleeves to store medals - you see many medals sold in those plastic packages and no one says they originally came with the awards.

Nota Bene · 08-26-2002, 05:54 PM

Tal,

I have just seen a Lenin 100 Medal in a similar box.

A.

Bill Dienna · 08-28-2002, 02:05 PM

For what this is worth I'll add this story...

Quite a few years ago I would regularly see Dmitri Markhov at the Meadowlands Militari Show in New Jrsey, where I would sometimes aquire an item from him. At one of the shows I commented that I had never seen any Soviet Orders or medals being offered in their original cases or boxes. In fact, I had no idea what the cases might even look like. Dmitri replied that there was no special signifigance atached to the boxes, and as a result they were not generally saved. At the next show, when I reached Dmitri's tables, he reached underneath the table and took out the small red box with the canvas-style covering, white interior, and no insert. He handed this to me and told me that this was the presentation box for virtually any Soviet award of signifigance. I asked him what had happened to the insert which I was sure must have been present at one time to receive the medal. Dmitri explained that there were no inserts; the box was used without any insert at all. So as of perhpas 10 years ago that was the information that I received from Dmitri on award boxes (By the way, when he handed me the box at that show it was not simply to show me an example; he was giving it to me as a gift).

Tal Inbar · 08-28-2002, 05:02 PM

Nice box:

Nota Bene · 09-22-2002, 03:17 PM

Gentlemen,

Here's a boxed OGPW 2nd class, type 1, variation 2.

Alexei

08-04-2002, 04:36 AM	#31
*Art* Forum Founder Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Buffalo NY Age: 58 Posts: 1,646	Alexei, I also have that same style box with one of my Lenin's. Strange they didn't include some sort of nice insert, similar to the other higher awards. I'm wondering if they were ever in better boxes, then post-war when everything cheapened up a little went to these? My set with this type of box dates from the 1950's, what is yours? __________________ Visit the main site to the forum: The Soviet Military Awards Page Want to sell awards on the forum? Please read the FAQ Important Links: Forum announcements and rules \| Image posting FAQ

08-26-2002, 04:12 PM	#35
Tal Inbar Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Israel Age: 55 Posts: 2,302	I saw this box several times at different sellers.:confused: __________________ Under the banner of Marxism-Leninism, under the leadership of the Communist Party--forward to new victories in the construction of communism!

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08-04-2002, 01:57 PM	#32
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Art, I am sure they must have had other boxes as well, and I don't know when exactly they started using these, but I know that they were used at least from 1942 till 1957. I have had documented Lenins from those dates with names of the recipients tyiped on a strip of paper, glued to the side of the box. Alexei

08-26-2002, 03:50 PM	#34
new world Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: NYC, USA Posts: 1,086	Tal, This box has nothing to do with the KPSU badge. As you can see from the picture - something else was stored in this box - hence the circular in the padding - and was most likely added by the seller.

08-26-2002, 04:33 PM	#36
new world Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: NYC, USA Posts: 1,086	Those boxes were mass produced in the SU to store cheap "zhachki" - pins (which this box was used for - just look at the picture). The numbers of these cheap boxes made are probably in millions, so I am not surprised that many dealers use them. It's just like us using plastic pocket sleeves to store medals - you see many medals sold in those plastic packages and no one says they originally came with the awards.

08-26-2002, 05:54 PM	#37
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Tal, I have just seen a Lenin 100 Medal in a similar box. A.

08-28-2002, 02:05 PM	#38
Bill Dienna Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Valley Forge, PA Posts: 30	For what this is worth I'll add this story... Quite a few years ago I would regularly see Dmitri Markhov at the Meadowlands Militari Show in New Jrsey, where I would sometimes aquire an item from him. At one of the shows I commented that I had never seen any Soviet Orders or medals being offered in their original cases or boxes. In fact, I had no idea what the cases might even look like. Dmitri replied that there was no special signifigance atached to the boxes, and as a result they were not generally saved. At the next show, when I reached Dmitri's tables, he reached underneath the table and took out the small red box with the canvas-style covering, white interior, and no insert. He handed this to me and told me that this was the presentation box for virtually any Soviet award of signifigance. I asked him what had happened to the insert which I was sure must have been present at one time to receive the medal. Dmitri explained that there were no inserts; the box was used without any insert at all. So as of perhpas 10 years ago that was the information that I received from Dmitri on award boxes (By the way, when he handed me the box at that show it was not simply to show me an example; he was giving it to me as a gift).

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