|
vBClassified Featured Listings | ||||
|
|
Fake Orders Questions, answers and General Information pertaining to fakes and copies of Orders and related items. |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
07-31-2013, 03:54 PM | #41 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: South Derbyshire, Great Britain
Age: 62
Posts: 208
|
Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star
Hi Guys, this one is up for sale with a Bravery medal and the award book. The other items look fine, but the real concern here is the serial number. What do you think to the style? It looks odd to me? I only have this one pic. My worry is it has been re-numbered and a false patina added to cover it up.
Cheers, Ade.
__________________
www.2ndguards.com |
Sponsored Links |
07-31-2013, 04:02 PM | #42 |
Comrade Curmudgeon
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,642
|
Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star
It's an MZPP variation which accounts for the strange style of the engraving of the serial number you mention and it appears the screw post has been reattached/rewelded rather crudely. The discoloration is, I believe, and based on the photograph, evidence of the reheating of the metal in the resoldering process.
Here is 2183645 for comparison. . . |
07-31-2013, 11:53 PM | #43 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Germany, Cologne
Posts: 626
|
Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star
I have some pictures in this serial number range were around the base of the screw is some solder. More than normally.
Maybe it is a characteristicum in this serial number range and the screw was not resoldered. But just a guess. best regards Andreas |
08-01-2013, 01:51 AM | #44 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: South Derbyshire, Great Britain
Age: 62
Posts: 208
|
Thanks Guys, much appreciated.
Hi Guys, I have taken another look at this star. Checkout the pic again and blow it up. It looks like it has been re-numbered?It appears there is a small number "55" just to the right of the number. Am I right or seeing things? Cheers, Ade.
__________________
www.2ndguards.com |
08-10-2013, 06:07 PM | #45 |
Comrade Curmudgeon
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,642
|
Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star
I think you are seeing things. . .
|
08-10-2013, 08:31 PM | #46 |
Forum Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Eurasia
Posts: 2,341
|
Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star
I too vote for the optical illusion.
|
09-14-2013, 02:21 AM | #47 |
Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Italy
Posts: 66
|
Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star
Hello.
I am tempted to enter negotiations with the seller for this ORS. The writing of the serial number looks a bit odd to me, I would like to read your opinions, please. Thanks! ciao Sergio |
09-14-2013, 07:41 AM | #48 |
Comrade Curmudgeon
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,642
|
Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star
Sergio, I like it. I have attached a couple of scans. 101187 & 105251 which are in numerical proximity either side of the example you have shown here. Note the similarities of the engraving style, disposition of the mint mark, screw post base, and so on. If the price is right I would add it to the collection in a heart beat.
|
09-14-2013, 07:44 AM | #49 |
Comrade Curmudgeon
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,642
|
Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star
Views of the obverse, 101187 & 105251, respectively, photographs used with permission. . .
|
09-14-2013, 07:48 AM | #50 |
Comrade Curmudgeon
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,642
|
Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star
And still another example is fairly close proximity, 100919, illustrating what you term "odd writing". . . Photographs/scans used with permission. . .
|
Bookmarks |
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
|
|
NEW MILITARY GEN 7 CAT TOURNIQUET RED TIP NORTH AMERICAN COMBAT APPLICATION TQ
$25.50
New US Military Woodland Ripstop Wet Weather Raincoat Poncho Camping Hiking Camo
$29.96
Genuine Military Improved Duffle Bag - Previously Issued
$27.25
USGI Military Issue Field Mosquito Bar Insect Net Tent Cot Cover Netting
$16.95
Pack of 2 Military 6 Magazine Bandoleer MOLLE II Mag Ammunition Pouch w/ Strap
$10.50
USGI US Military Army ACU Camo Wet Weather Poncho Liner Woobie Blanket
$23.25
US military chemical protective suits and gloves in factory sealed case -LARGE
$99.00
US Army Military WATERPROOF CLOTHES Clothing GEAR WET WEATHER LAUNDRY BAG GC
$7.90
$175.00
Pack of 5 Military 6 Magazine Bandoleer MOLLE II Mag Ammunition Pouch w/ Strap
$21.25