Faked & Fantasy ribbon bars (Fruit salad) - Page 5

vikingraider1 · 04-20-2003, 09:35 PM

Nota,
I agree, the missing Lenin was a bit suspicious and I did question this. This is the first time this dealer has let me down, he is normally really good, most of my collection has come from him.
Oh Well you learn by your mistakes. I must admit that my main area of collection is uniforms not medals, the medals I buy are only to compliment the uniforms I have.
This has really spurred me on to study medals in depth as I have not really been an avid collector of medals. The only thing is the more I study a subject the more money that gets spent on it! :D

Tal Inbar · 04-22-2003, 01:02 PM

Another fantasy bar - unlikely combination. At first I thought to point up the "mistakes" etc., but only a novice collector OR a total full will think it is genuine ribbon bar.

Nota Bene · 04-22-2003, 07:13 PM

Tal,

Not only an unlikely combination, but slopily mounter ribbons...

Alexei

Tal Inbar · 05-08-2003, 04:25 PM

No words:

vikingraider1 · 05-08-2003, 06:02 PM

What is the score with the medal ribbons listed above. I have seen these in two different varieties, one small and one large sized ribbons. Are they completely fake? Are they copies of how original ribbons would have looked?

Nota Bene · 05-11-2003, 02:49 PM

Vikingraider1,

You are right, fake is not a very accurate word for them. They are pobably better called "fantasy" bars - the ribbons are original and so are the backings, but they were put together just for sale and never actually belonged to anybody.

The order in which those ribbons were mounted was determined by regulations. Tal's last post is a very good example of this fantasy piece - Virgin Lands Medal, Labor Glory 1st Class, Medal for Preservation of Public Order, Order of the October Revolution, etc. The seller probably has no idea what they are.

Alexei

vikingraider1 · 05-11-2003, 06:24 PM

Thanks for the reply. The thing that I was wondering about was the fact that both wide and narrow medal ribbons are avaialable now and there seems to be no distiction between the two. Can you shed any light on the matter, whether they are post war fakes or genunine issue items?
Thanks

Nota Bene · 05-13-2003, 06:40 PM

Vikingraider1,

Both variations get faked - look for genuine wear and proper order.

Alexei

Christophe · 05-28-2003, 11:47 AM

:cry:

Seen on the French e-Bay.

Ch.

HuliganRS · 05-28-2003, 12:07 PM

Christophe:

What's wrong with this bar?

To me this one looks plausible!

Rusty.

04-20-2003, 09:35 PM	#41
vikingraider1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: London, Home of West Ham United Age: 54 Posts: 328	Nota, I agree, the missing Lenin was a bit suspicious and I did question this. This is the first time this dealer has let me down, he is normally really good, most of my collection has come from him. Oh Well you learn by your mistakes. I must admit that my main area of collection is uniforms not medals, the medals I buy are only to compliment the uniforms I have. This has really spurred me on to study medals in depth as I have not really been an avid collector of medals. The only thing is the more I study a subject the more money that gets spent on it! :D __________________ "We can truly say that the whole circuit of the earth is girdled with the graves of our dead... and, in the course of my pilgrimage, I have many times asked myself whether there can be more potent advocates of peace upon earth through the years to come, than this massed multitude of silent witnesses to the desolation of war." King George V, Flanders, 1922

05-08-2003, 06:02 PM	#45
vikingraider1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: London, Home of West Ham United Age: 54 Posts: 328	What is the score with the medal ribbons listed above. I have seen these in two different varieties, one small and one large sized ribbons. Are they completely fake? Are they copies of how original ribbons would have looked? __________________ "We can truly say that the whole circuit of the earth is girdled with the graves of our dead... and, in the course of my pilgrimage, I have many times asked myself whether there can be more potent advocates of peace upon earth through the years to come, than this massed multitude of silent witnesses to the desolation of war." King George V, Flanders, 1922

05-11-2003, 06:24 PM	#47
vikingraider1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: London, Home of West Ham United Age: 54 Posts: 328	Thanks for the reply. The thing that I was wondering about was the fact that both wide and narrow medal ribbons are avaialable now and there seems to be no distiction between the two. Can you shed any light on the matter, whether they are post war fakes or genunine issue items? Thanks __________________ "We can truly say that the whole circuit of the earth is girdled with the graves of our dead... and, in the course of my pilgrimage, I have many times asked myself whether there can be more potent advocates of peace upon earth through the years to come, than this massed multitude of silent witnesses to the desolation of war." King George V, Flanders, 1922

05-28-2003, 12:07 PM	#50
HuliganRS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Illinois - U.S.A. Age: 46 Posts: 1,023	Christophe: What's wrong with this bar? To me this one looks plausible! Rusty. __________________ "Be civil to all, sociable to many, familiar with few, friend to one, enemy to none." Benjamin Franklin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Member #193

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04-22-2003, 07:13 PM	#43
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Tal, Not only an unlikely combination, but slopily mounter ribbons... Alexei

05-11-2003, 02:49 PM	#46
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Vikingraider1, You are right, fake is not a very accurate word for them. They are pobably better called "fantasy" bars - the ribbons are original and so are the backings, but they were put together just for sale and never actually belonged to anybody. The order in which those ribbons were mounted was determined by regulations. Tal's last post is a very good example of this fantasy piece - Virgin Lands Medal, Labor Glory 1st Class, Medal for Preservation of Public Order, Order of the October Revolution, etc. The seller probably has no idea what they are. Alexei

05-13-2003, 06:40 PM	#48
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Vikingraider1, Both variations get faked - look for genuine wear and proper order. Alexei

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