For Service To The Motherland In The Armed Forces Of The USSR. - Page 5

Doug Scott · 03-26-2003, 03:37 AM

I had a full set of unissued Service to Motherland awards offered to me here in Republic of Georgia for $500.00. I passed. As I recall, the serial number on the 1st class was 0009, which based on the information I had at the time, I felt had already been issued. Same thing for the 2nd class. None of them had docs. However, those are the first of this type of award I have seen here in over a year.

WAR II · 03-26-2003, 04:03 PM

I have a beautiful 1st Class and a 2nd Class Order of Service to the Motherland in the Armed Forces of the USSR which came from a Soviet Jew who immigrated to Israel in the early 1990s. The 1st Class is #114 and the 2nd Class is #2614. I assume both of them are unissued orders.
I noticed that McDaniel indicates on page 172 the highest serial # he had seen for a 1st Class was #454, and the highest # he had seen for a 2nd Class was 2951. If these are the highest numbers he had seen by 1997 (date of his book) it seems feasible that there had been at least 454 1st and 2951 2nd Class orders struck. What do you think?

new world · 04-28-2004, 10:54 AM

Quite rare mirror reverse variation of order of Service to Motherland in the Armed Forces 3rd class.

William

Nota Bene · 05-01-2004, 05:38 PM

William,

What a superb piece!!

Guys,

Here's an unusual piece, that I have found recently. It's not a "mirror reverse", but look at the second scan.

Alexei

yolkin · 05-02-2004, 10:18 AM

I have noticed that before on some "awarded s/n range" pieces.

Eric

Nota Bene · 05-02-2004, 01:05 PM

Eric,

I can't see it from the scan. Does it have the same vertical lines on the bottom tip? What is the serial number?

Alexei

yolkin · 05-02-2004, 10:43 PM

Alexei,

sn is 59308, and no there does not seem to be any vertical lines at the 6 o'clock tip.

Eric

Nota Bene · 05-03-2004, 04:33 PM

Eric,

We were talking about unusual variations of this award. William's Order is a rare "mirror reverse" variation, and mine is a weird piece with some raised vertical lines on the bottom tip. I've never seen such variation before.

I think your's is a common variation, or am I missing something?

Alexei

Lapa · 05-06-2004, 05:45 PM

Alexei,

Could it be a case of clashed dies, as happens in numismatics?

Marc

Nota Bene · 05-06-2004, 08:37 PM

Mark,

Being a coin collector for 30+ year :) this was my first thought, but I don't believe so - the line are too pronounced and even.

Alexei

05-02-2004, 10:43 PM	#47
yolkin Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Chicago Age: 46 Posts: 206	Alexei, sn is 59308, and no there does not seem to be any vertical lines at the 6 o'clock tip. Eric __________________ Soviet Union is the only country with an unpredictable ... past!

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03-26-2003, 03:37 AM	#41
Doug Scott New Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 15	I had a full set of unissued Service to Motherland awards offered to me here in Republic of Georgia for $500.00. I passed. As I recall, the serial number on the 1st class was 0009, which based on the information I had at the time, I felt had already been issued. Same thing for the 2nd class. None of them had docs. However, those are the first of this type of award I have seen here in over a year.

03-26-2003, 04:03 PM	#42
WAR II New Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: San Diego Age: 86 Posts: 14	I have a beautiful 1st Class and a 2nd Class Order of Service to the Motherland in the Armed Forces of the USSR which came from a Soviet Jew who immigrated to Israel in the early 1990s. The 1st Class is #114 and the 2nd Class is #2614. I assume both of them are unissued orders. I noticed that McDaniel indicates on page 172 the highest serial # he had seen for a 1st Class was #454, and the highest # he had seen for a 2nd Class was 2951. If these are the highest numbers he had seen by 1997 (date of his book) it seems feasible that there had been at least 454 1st and 2951 2nd Class orders struck. What do you think?

05-02-2004, 01:05 PM	#46
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Eric, I can't see it from the scan. Does it have the same vertical lines on the bottom tip? What is the serial number? Alexei

05-03-2004, 04:33 PM	#48
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Eric, We were talking about unusual variations of this award. William's Order is a rare "mirror reverse" variation, and mine is a weird piece with some raised vertical lines on the bottom tip. I've never seen such variation before. I think your's is a common variation, or am I missing something? Alexei

05-06-2004, 05:45 PM	#49
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	Alexei, Could it be a case of clashed dies, as happens in numismatics? Marc

05-06-2004, 08:37 PM	#50
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Mark, Being a coin collector for 30+ year :) this was my first thought, but I don't believe so - the line are too pronounced and even. Alexei

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