Movies: find it!

[aironmeiden]

I read the thread of Kapusta Norm and i thought that would be nice to find errors on films involving CCCP.
I suggest to start with a blockbuster: ENEMY AT THE GATES
This night i'll watch it

Originally Posted by Kapusta Norm

So, I have a few days off and it is raining. As such, I am watching the movie "Patton" again. Don't know if you noticed but in the scene with the Soviet officers, their awards looked very very phoney. Did anyone else notice this also?

Since I'm on the topic, Patton went to VMI and West Point? Did he transfer to West Point from VMI? Does anyone know where he graduated in his class,ie., numerically?

[Tretov]

Here are some other titles:

Hunt for Red October
K-19 Widowmaker
Stalingrad
Red Dawn
James Bond: Octopussy
James Bond: Goldeneye

[Esteban_cool]

Originally Posted by aironmeiden

I read the thread of Kapusta Norm and i thought that would be nice to find errors on films involving CCCP.
I suggest to start with a blockbuster: ENEMY AT THE GATES
This night i'll watch it

There are two mistakes I noticed in Enemy at the Gates.

First: When Kruschev addresses the commisars at the barracks, a portrait shows Stalin in his M43 (or M45?) uniform, but the year is 1942.

Second: The soviet anthem played is the 1977 version that replaced the 1944 version. And before 1944 the soviet national anthem was the Internationale.

[aironmeiden]

I'm not expert with weapons but if you look at the rifle in the film and compare with a real photo of Zaitsev the scope looks ridicously small...
I don't know if he used small scopes for urban environment so can someone say if my observation is right?!

[desantnik]

Originally Posted by aironmeiden

I'm not expert with weapons but if you look at the rifle in the film and compare with a real photo of Zaitsev the scope looks ridicously small...
I don't know if he used small scopes for urban environment so can someone say if my observation is right?!

This is a period scope and is actually quite large - the Germans had a much smaller one.

[ANZAC]

More movies:

The Winter War (Finnish)
Cross of Iron


Brendan

[Esteban_cool]

I saw a bit of Cross of Iron just some hours ago. I can describe it in just one word: Hilarious.

[aironmeiden]

Originally Posted by Komandir RKKA

ENEMY AT THE GATES - a blockbuster
Probably on the West.
But former Soviet citizen can only laugh on this stupid film.

Yes IT IS a blockbuster!
97.000.000$ earned are not loose change in my opinion.
There's also Jude Law in the cast...
If you don't like it's another kettle of fish: as a case in point Cloverfield is a crap but earned 170.000.000$ and IT IS a blockbuster!

Actually i pretty liked "Enemy at the Gates" for a particular reason: americans always portray russians as the "bad guys" and in my country russian are always dubbed with stupid accent while americas speak fluently in italian. In this film they are not the bad guys and they speak fluently italian so i liked for the effort...

Originally Posted by desantnik

This is a period scope and is actually quite large - the Germans had a much smaller one.

Not the scope in the photo... the scope in the film.

Yesterday i see also "Coraline", an animated stop motion cartoon from the director of Nightmare Before Christmas.
One of the characters wears a medal and i think it is the Medal for Service at the Chernobyl Nuclear Disaster.

[Commissar]

Enemy at the Gates :
The one ribbon that Major König wears on his ribbon bar is a non-combatant's version of a commemorative medal for WWI veterans. Not only is it unlikely that an ace WWII sniper would have been a non-combatant in WWI, König wears a combatant's WWI Iron Cross ribbon through the buttonhole of his tunic, directly contradicting the ribbon bar.

the NKVD troops responsible for shooting retreating troops are dressed in regular army uniforms, not NKVD issued uniforms, and one of them is firing a Makarov PM.

Danilov was a commissar for most of the course of the film, the rank of commissar was eliminated on 9 October 1942, well before the end of the Stalingrad battle.

The scope mounted on Vasili's rifle in the movie is of the PU type. On actual pictures dated 1942 another type of scope can be seen, most likely of the (larger) PEM type.

[Eryk]

Originally Posted by Commissar

Danilov was a commissar for most of the course of the film, the rank of commissar was eliminated on 9 October 1942, well before the end of the Stalingrad battle.

Not really; the order of 9 October was to be implemented over the next month, giving the commissar's military rank. And the front being what it was I wouldn't doubt if they were wearing the same uniforms long after that.

At any rate the political workers remained embedded in the RKKA. Their authority was much reduced - they could no longer override the unit commander's orders. But their political work (motivation, news dissemination, monitoring the troop's "political correctness", etc) didn't stop.

Be that as it may be... Enemy at the Gates was a terrible movie!