Damaged, Repair, Clean, Preserve Soviet Awards And Documents.

[leaftree]

What is considered original soldering? is it noticeable or blended in well? Do people convert variation 2 and 3's to a variation 1? Is black soldering from tin considered original?

These are just some questions that have been running through my head lately, and I haven't seen any posts/threads that address these.

Thank you

[desantnik]

Originally Posted by leaftree

What is considered original soldering? is it noticeable or blended in well? Do people convert variation 2 and 3's to a variation 1? Is black soldering from tin considered original?

These are just some questions that have been running through my head lately, and I haven't seen any posts/threads that address these.

Thank you

Solder was done by professionals so quality reflected that, however occasional sloppiness did occur. Silver solder was used - never tin so black means post-Mint work.

[leaftree]

Thank you for responding desantnik.
I should clarify that my questions are from looking at campaign medals ( Stalingrad, Budapest, Warsaw etc.) medals.
Did these rings have a tendency to break? I have several medals that are original, but I do see some black where the ring has been soldered on.
and last of all, was the ring always soldered together? On one of my medals the ring does not fully join together.
Sorry for shot-gunning so many questions, but it really frustrates me in this area of the medal and hinders my selection process when purchasing a medal.

I would think even if these guys are professionals, doing such a tedious job day in and out, they would tend to get a little sloppy.

Regards,

[travel-north]

Originally Posted by desantnik

Silver solder was used - never tin so black means post-Mint work.

Does it mean that all genuine medals with black soldering like in the picture attached are either type 1 medals that had additional soldering done by the owner to fix the ring because of damage or later type medals that were remade to look like type 1 medals?

[Shocktrooper]

Hello everybody,

I just purchased this one for a couple of bucks - it seems that someone was a little bit angry with Josif Stalin at the end ...

Jens

[desantnik]

Agreed - that was far from accidental.

[Will]

That is VERY cool !
A real piece of "personal" history.

[Lapa]

Jens,

For information, some bright mind has been faking these for some time and selling them as "relics". The one you show may or may not be genuine.

Marc

[Shocktrooper]

@ Lapa,

forensic laboratories in Marburg (Germany) proved blood stains and iron oxide on the medal`s surface today. So this one was definately hit by a (steel) shrapnel, severely wounding the recipient of this medal.

Jens

[Lapa]