Fake Orders of the Red Star - Page 6

marsino · 09-14-2013, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocketscientist

Hello.
I am tempted to enter negotiations with the seller for this ORS.
The writing of the serial number looks a bit odd to me, I would like to read your opinions, please.

Thanks!
ciao
Sergio

It all looks ok, but not the calligraphy of the serial.

rocketscientist · 09-14-2013, 08:26 AM

That's exactly my point, marsino. Why should someone fake a serial number on a star that should already have a serial in the correct range? The only thing I can imagine is that some seller wanted to match an awarding document, which today is no longer there...
Thanks for the very interesting pictures
ciao
Sergio

marsino · 09-14-2013, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocketscientist

That's exactly my point, marsino. Why should someone fake a serial number on a star that should already have a serial in the correct range? The only thing I can imagine is that some seller wanted to match an awarding document, which today is no longer there...
Thanks for the very interesting pictures
ciao
Sergio

In my opinion, the surface has been removed, and the last four numbers re-engraved.

***CtahhR*** · 09-14-2013, 09:07 AM

I would agree with this conclusion. Probably altered to fit a group and has since been removed from the real items or completely split into smaller lots.

09-21-2013, 05:31 PM

First time posting here. I have recently picked up about 35 soviet medals from a relatives garage. All bought in the 80's on various trips to Russia. SO, I'd like to sell most of these, and need to find out if these are the real thing or not. On top of that, if possible, I'd like a rough value estimate for them.

I'm just going to post one for now, and see if the pictures are acceptable before I take more pictures and start uploading them. Any advice is appreciated, in the meantime here is the highest serial numbered red star I have. Real or no? Value?

***CtahhR*** · 09-21-2013, 05:38 PM

It is real, with a market value of ~$50.
Most likely awarded for wounds or a "catch-up".

09-21-2013, 07:13 PM

I'll post some more. Thanks for the quick response!

***CtahhR*** · 09-21-2013, 07:14 PM

This one is probably for long service. The price is the same.

09-21-2013, 07:51 PM

What about this one?

***CtahhR*** · 09-21-2013, 08:01 PM

Also good. Probably awarded late 1943 early 1944 prior to long service awards.

09-14-2013, 08:26 AM	#52
rocketscientist Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 66	Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star That's exactly my point, marsino. Why should someone fake a serial number on a star that should already have a serial in the correct range? The only thing I can imagine is that some seller wanted to match an awarding document, which today is no longer there... Thanks for the very interesting pictures ciao Sergio

09-14-2013, 09:07 AM	#54
*CtahhR* Forum Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Deep In The Archives. Age: 17 Posts: 12,074	Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star I would agree with this conclusion. Probably altered to fit a group and has since been removed from the real items or completely split into smaller lots. __________________ "Signed with his own rubber stamp"

09-21-2013, 05:38 PM	#56
*CtahhR* Forum Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Deep In The Archives. Age: 17 Posts: 12,074	Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star It is real, with a market value of ~$50. Most likely awarded for wounds or a "catch-up". __________________ "Signed with his own rubber stamp"

09-21-2013, 07:14 PM	#58
*CtahhR* Forum Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Deep In The Archives. Age: 17 Posts: 12,074	Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star This one is probably for long service. The price is the same. __________________ "Signed with his own rubber stamp"

09-21-2013, 08:01 PM	#60
*CtahhR* Forum Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Deep In The Archives. Age: 17 Posts: 12,074	Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star Also good. Probably awarded late 1943 early 1944 prior to long service awards. __________________ "Signed with his own rubber stamp"

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