The Soviet Military Awards Page Forum  
  • Serial Numbers Database 2.0
Enter Here

vBClassified Featured Listings
Order of Maternal Glory, 2nd Class
Echoes of War
Bernik

Go Back   The Soviet Military Awards Page Forum > Soviet Awards Forums > Union Of Soviet Socialist Republics > Soviet Medals

Soviet Medals Physical Characteristics, History, Types/Variations, Identification, Collecting Stories, anything relevant to the collecting of Soviet Medals (Медали СССР) is here.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-10-2004, 12:19 PM   #11
Dave
Senior Member
 
Dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: California
Age: 46
Posts: 700
About three or four years ago, someone locally was selling a group with five For Valor medals. They had belonged to Zhukov's (or another big marshal) driver.

--Dave
Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 07-19-2005, 12:21 PM   #12
sovvisor
Bearer of the Red Star
 
sovvisor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Uppsala Swden
Age: 46
Posts: 229
bravery.help needed

Hi
I just got a bravery medal with a strange sign before the serialnumber. The same russian letter is apperent before the preprinted serialnumber in the award booklet. The serial number it self looks like it was struck during heavy artillery fire. Could anyone make any sence of it. Why is the letter there? Is it a duplicate? The medal is a late one but the serial is not that late. Whats the guys name? Any story would be greatly appriciated!!!
Best :confused:
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Namnlöst-1 kopiera.jpg (8.1 KB, 82 views)
File Type: jpg P1010003.jpg (36.2 KB, 70 views)
File Type: jpg P1010009.jpg (40.0 KB, 69 views)
__________________
sovvisor
sovvisor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2005, 01:17 PM   #13
Alfred
Senior Member
 
Alfred's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Germany, Cologne
Posts: 624
Hello,

from the awarding date of the medal, it is a medal without serial number.
Maybe the owner have done it, or a faker?

The guys name is: Skragul, Viktor, Iwanowitsch (?)

Just my two pence, but lets wait for the experts.

regards
Andreas

Last edited by Alfred; 07-19-2005 at 01:20 PM.
Alfred is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2005, 02:21 PM   #14
Dolf
Senior Member
 
Dolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Lisbon, Portugal
Age: 65
Posts: 572
Quote:
Originally Posted by sovvisor
Hi
I just got a bravery medal with a strange sign before the serialnumber.
Best :confused:

Funny, that Russian letter looks like a "Sh", but I have no idea why it's there before the S/N!!! First time I see that!

Quote:
The serial number it self looks like it was struck during heavy artillery fire.
Yes indeed :p :confused: Also 1st time I see such an irregularly struck S/N!

I'm really curious to read the experts opinion on this!

Dolf
Dolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2005, 02:26 PM   #15
sovvisor
Bearer of the Red Star
 
sovvisor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Uppsala Swden
Age: 46
Posts: 229
long time collector

i´ve been collecting soviet orders and medals since 1989 and never encountered it before. that´s why i bought the medal.
best
__________________
sovvisor
sovvisor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2005, 09:53 PM   #16
redmedals
Member
 
redmedals's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Shediac, New Brunswick
Age: 65
Posts: 99
Quote:
Originally Posted by sovvisor
Hi
I just got a bravery medal with a strange sign before the serialnumber. The same russian letter is apperent before the preprinted serialnumber in the award booklet. The serial number it self looks like it was struck during heavy artillery fire. Could anyone make any sence of it. Why is the letter there? Is it a duplicate? The medal is a late one but the serial is not that late. Whats the guys name? Any story would be greatly appriciated!!!
Best :confused:
Looking at the date in the medal booklet 1970 this would require a non numbered type 2 variant 3 medal. I have never seen a Bravery medal with the "sh" on it like this and the serial number is badly punched this in my opinion would be someone was trying their hand at making a serial number on a T2V3 medal. But why the "sh" I don't even venture a guess on that. If the booklet is genuine get yourself an unumbered T2V3 for it. It is doubtful that this medal and booklet belong together anyway and certainly with a number on it now it definatly doesn't match the booklet. It's too bad people do that to medals. I came across a Combat Service medal that has been demolished by someone trying to punch a 4 digit SN on it the punches push a circular bulge through to the face, then it is hung it on a Lenin 100 hanger!
Ron
redmedals is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2005, 01:47 AM   #17
sovvisor
Bearer of the Red Star
 
sovvisor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Uppsala Swden
Age: 46
Posts: 229
hi

I don´t really agree with you. I have a feeling that it´s something more to it than just a fake. Why bother to put serial number to such an common medal. It would have been perfectly fine without the number and would still be right for the booklet. The letter in front of the number is what puzzels me most. Why is it there? Culd it be a reissue to someone that had spent time in the GULAG? Is it done on his unit? I need more opinions. It doesn´t make sense to put serialnumber on a medal that makes it a variation that is exactly the same price as the unnumbered one.
Best :confused:
__________________
sovvisor
sovvisor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2005, 06:22 AM   #18
steve v.
New Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Canada
Posts: 16
Maybe the awardee of the medal did it himself?

The number and the letter both appear in the award document, perhaps the owner needed to remind himself which docs and medals went together?
steve v. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2005, 06:25 AM   #19
medalklector
Member
 
medalklector's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: London
Posts: 48
Hi,

It might seem like an obvious thing, but can you ask the seller for any details?

It is an interesting item, as you say, why bother to put a serial number on such a common medal.
__________________
"When the man with the rifle gets killed, the man without picks up the rifle and shoots....."
medalklector is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2005, 08:11 AM   #20
HuliganRS
Senior Member
 
HuliganRS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Illinois - U.S.A.
Age: 43
Posts: 1,023
The booklet number is stamped on the medal.

I've seen this before.

Rusty.
__________________
"Be civil to all, sociable to many, familiar with few, friend to one, enemy to none." Benjamin Franklin
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Member #193
HuliganRS is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are Off
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Medal Of Courage. medals73 Iraqi Medals 0 02-23-2012 07:09 AM
Petrosjan, Garnik Mkrtichevich, Driver, 492nd Anti-Tank Artillery Regiment Bill Garvy Red/Soviet Army Award Groups 5 05-30-2011 09:41 PM
Bravery Medal #735.637 desantnik Sold Soviet Awards Archive 3 08-12-2007 06:59 AM
Medal for Bravery reichsrommel Sold Soviet Awards Archive 0 08-24-2006 07:40 AM
Medal for Bravery w/Doc Nota Bene Sold Soviet Awards Archive 1 03-23-2006 11:40 AM

Russian Medal "For Service in their own convoy Emperor Nicholas Alexandrovich"
$115000.0
 Russian Medal SIAM THAILAND RARE KING RAMA V 1884 SILVER PRAB HAW BRAVERY MEDAL.
$73595.0
SIAM THAILAND RARE KING RAMA V 1884 SILVER PRAB HAW BRAVERY MEDAL. pictureHOTCHKISS RIFLE & SHELLS UNIQUE CHINESE MANUAL MEDAL HONOR WINNER BOXER WAR NAVY
$49999.97
HOTCHKISS RIFLE & SHELLS UNIQUE CHINESE MANUAL MEDAL HONOR WINNER BOXER WAR NAVY picture1897 USMA Yearbook 39 Generals 3 Medal of Honor Gettysburg Custer 1st to FLY?WOW
$49500.0
1897 USMA Yearbook 39 Generals 3 Medal of Honor Gettysburg Custer 1st to FLY?WOW pictureWWII German Knights Cross Iron Cross Oakleaves & Swords Ribbon medal badge award
$39995.0
WWII German Knights Cross Iron Cross Oakleaves & Swords Ribbon medal badge award picture



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:36 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright ©2011 Arthur G. Bates III