real or junk cap ??

olivyaya · 01-29-2004, 03:43 PM

what's your feeling ??????

vikingraider1 · 01-29-2004, 06:51 PM

If original then that is a M1955 infantry officers parade cap. The thing is they are being maunfactured in great numbers now so you have to be really careful.
Check the inside if you can (or get pictures) there should be a fair amount of wear. If itlooks brand new then I would not pay more than £20.

DougD · 01-29-2004, 07:45 PM

"If original then that is a M1955 infantry officers parade cap. The thing is they are being maunfactured in great numbers now so you have to be really careful."

i was curious where you heard they were making large numbers of fake M1955 items? this would seem odd as the originals are very available and don't sell for much.

DougD

otlichnik · 01-30-2004, 03:59 AM

I have never heard of a fake M1955 hat. I think $50 would be a great price for it and $100 still fair.

To make a fake you would either need to make the hat badge and leaves out of very high quality thick brass like the originals or substitute easy to spot cheaper aluminium.

Shawn

vikingraider1 · 01-30-2004, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DougD

"If original then that is a M1955 infantry officers parade cap. The thing is they are being maunfactured in great numbers now so you have to be really careful."

i was curious where you heard they were making large numbers of fake M1955 items? this would seem odd as the originals are very available and don't sell for much.

DougD

There is a Ukranian dealer here in Britain and last time I saw him he had a load of these caps, almost all for every branch of service and they were all in pristine condition except that there was no label on the inside of the cap. I presumed they were fakes as he had a lot of them.

olivyaya · 01-30-2004, 04:35 PM

Thanks all for your help !

DougD · 01-30-2004, 04:42 PM

VR, I doubt they were repro...they are available in big numbers...i had 5 for sale, with tunics, a few years back...I think Shawn had a really god collection of them too.

DD

vikingraider1 · 01-31-2004, 04:46 AM

Really? That surprises me. These caps were in absoloutly mint conidtion, not something you would have expected to be nearly 50 years old and the absence of a label inside the cap was what made me think they were definately repro. Were they actually issued with no maker label?

otlichnik · 02-03-2004, 09:24 AM

Well, they are faking M1943 so it is possible. Try to get a better look sometime. All the ones I had had a diamond label inside. What were the badges like? Cheap or thick??

Shawn

DougD · 02-03-2004, 12:00 PM

Really good condition and no label simply is not enough to call it repro. You need to be able to point out specific parts of the hat that are not "right" and why they are not right. There is a market for fake M1935, M1940, and M1943 era uniforms; not so for M1954 uniforms.

DougD

01-29-2004, 06:51 PM	#2
vikingraider1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: London, Home of West Ham United Age: 54 Posts: 328	If original then that is a M1955 infantry officers parade cap. The thing is they are being maunfactured in great numbers now so you have to be really careful. Check the inside if you can (or get pictures) there should be a fair amount of wear. If itlooks brand new then I would not pay more than £20. __________________ "We can truly say that the whole circuit of the earth is girdled with the graves of our dead... and, in the course of my pilgrimage, I have many times asked myself whether there can be more potent advocates of peace upon earth through the years to come, than this massed multitude of silent witnesses to the desolation of war." King George V, Flanders, 1922

01-29-2004, 07:45 PM	#3
DougD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NJ Age: 50 Posts: 2,060	fake M1955? "If original then that is a M1955 infantry officers parade cap. The thing is they are being maunfactured in great numbers now so you have to be really careful." i was curious where you heard they were making large numbers of fake M1955 items? this would seem odd as the originals are very available and don't sell for much. DougD

01-30-2004, 04:42 PM	#7
DougD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NJ Age: 50 Posts: 2,060	repro... VR, I doubt they were repro...they are available in big numbers...i had 5 for sale, with tunics, a few years back...I think Shawn had a really god collection of them too. DD

01-31-2004, 04:46 AM	#8
vikingraider1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: London, Home of West Ham United Age: 54 Posts: 328	Really? That surprises me. These caps were in absoloutly mint conidtion, not something you would have expected to be nearly 50 years old and the absence of a label inside the cap was what made me think they were definately repro. Were they actually issued with no maker label? __________________ "We can truly say that the whole circuit of the earth is girdled with the graves of our dead... and, in the course of my pilgrimage, I have many times asked myself whether there can be more potent advocates of peace upon earth through the years to come, than this massed multitude of silent witnesses to the desolation of war." King George V, Flanders, 1922

02-03-2004, 12:00 PM	#10
DougD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NJ Age: 50 Posts: 2,060	repro. Really good condition and no label simply is not enough to call it repro. You need to be able to point out specific parts of the hat that are not "right" and why they are not right. There is a market for fake M1935, M1940, and M1943 era uniforms; not so for M1954 uniforms. DougD

01-30-2004, 03:59 AM	#4
otlichnik Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Age: 56 Posts: 547	I have never heard of a fake M1955 hat. I think $50 would be a great price for it and $100 still fair. To make a fake you would either need to make the hat badge and leaves out of very high quality thick brass like the originals or substitute easy to spot cheaper aluminium. Shawn

01-30-2004, 04:35 PM	#6
olivyaya Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 30	Thanks all for your help !

02-03-2004, 09:24 AM	#9
otlichnik Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Age: 56 Posts: 547	Well, they are faking M1943 so it is possible. Try to get a better look sometime. All the ones I had had a diamond label inside. What were the badges like? Cheap or thick?? Shawn

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