"KGB" Generals Uniforms - Page 2

charlet · 10-18-2003, 04:56 PM

the crown, as huge as a parabolic antenna for ETI detection in Arizona, is a sign of fake and fabrication of the 90'...they use the crown patern and structure of the russian army... and please read supra the others ARGUMENTED opinions.

DougD · 11-07-2003, 01:07 PM

The only modern generals uniform in the KGB museum in moscow is for Chebrikov (I think!)....clearly shows his RED, not blue, piping.

DougD

vikingraider1 · 11-09-2003, 07:29 AM

Who did the uniform belong to Doug?

Esteban_cool · 11-09-2003, 09:22 AM

Do you have a closer pic of that uniform(especially awards?)

DougD · 11-09-2003, 01:36 PM

I think ( am not sure) that the uniform was Viktor Chebrikov's; can't get a closer shot as you are not allowed to take photos or video in the KGB museum; i stayed near the end of the bunch and snagged a few.

DD

Bill Dienna · 03-23-2005, 01:02 PM

I did a search to find this thread, in the hope of answering a question, but it doesn't seem to be here. So...

Does anyone know when the KGB Generals began using stars on shoulder boards as insignia of rank?

DougD · 03-23-2005, 07:04 PM

what do you mean by KGB generals? By that, I am saying that all generals got shoulderboards in 1943 so NKVD / NKGB generals (commissars) would have been among them...when the NKGB went to the MGB and then the KGB they never gave up the boards. Did you mean an exact date?

DD

Bill Dienna · 03-23-2005, 07:44 PM

Sorry, Doug, that wasn't clear.

What I am wondering is whether there was a time when NKVD/MGB Generals would have worn blue piped boards with stars, such as on a model kitel, after they did away with the "zig-zag" boards of the commisar rank.

DougD · 03-26-2005, 09:25 AM

yes, for at least a time NKVD troop generals and MGB troop generals did have the blue piping. Although not an absolute, the stripes were only for NKVD generals in the NKGB, troop generals having no stripe. So, you could have no stripe boards in 1943 through about 1946/7. Below is one on my list, for an MGB troop general. A short lived uniform.

DougD

Al-muell · 03-31-2005, 03:24 PM

I have a rather silly question here...
One of my best suppliers (Ukrainian) shown me an interesting thing this month.
Here's the story:
When he served in the army he once got sick (nothing unusual) and when he was in the hospital he met a soldier from a representative division, more specificaly, a cavaleryman from a regiment that was a part of it (I have even seen the collar insignia he got from the guy) and he said, that not only cavalerymen in that division wore dark-blue-coloured insignia. Wether it is true or not... (prepeare for a crazy theory)... What if a cavalery officer became a general (for me it is logical that a division has to be led by a general)? What uniform would he wear?
Wouldn't it be something like those "KGB" (of course not in such numbers)?
Try not to lough too loud.

10-18-2003, 04:56 PM	#11
charlet Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Germany Age: 49 Posts: 791	the crown, as huge as a parabolic antenna for ETI detection in Arizona, is a sign of fake and fabrication of the 90'...they use the crown patern and structure of the russian army... and please read supra the others ARGUMENTED opinions. __________________ Sebastien "a spectre haunts Europe, the spectre of communism" (a well-known german bearbed)

11-09-2003, 07:29 AM	#13
vikingraider1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: London, Home of West Ham United Age: 54 Posts: 328	Who did the uniform belong to Doug? __________________ "We can truly say that the whole circuit of the earth is girdled with the graves of our dead... and, in the course of my pilgrimage, I have many times asked myself whether there can be more potent advocates of peace upon earth through the years to come, than this massed multitude of silent witnesses to the desolation of war." King George V, Flanders, 1922

11-09-2003, 09:22 AM	#14
Esteban_cool Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santiago, Chile Age: 36 Posts: 1,103	Do you have a closer pic of that uniform(especially awards?) __________________ There's nothing in the streets Looks any different to me And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye And the parting on the left Are now parting on the right And the beards have all grown longer overnight The Who, Won't get fooled again

11-09-2003, 01:36 PM	#15
DougD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NJ Age: 50 Posts: 2,060	answers I think ( am not sure) that the uniform was Viktor Chebrikov's; can't get a closer shot as you are not allowed to take photos or video in the KGB museum; i stayed near the end of the bunch and snagged a few. DD

03-23-2005, 07:04 PM	#17
DougD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NJ Age: 50 Posts: 2,060	boards what do you mean by KGB generals? By that, I am saying that all generals got shoulderboards in 1943 so NKVD / NKGB generals (commissars) would have been among them...when the NKGB went to the MGB and then the KGB they never gave up the boards. Did you mean an exact date? DD

03-23-2005, 01:02 PM	#16
Bill Dienna Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Valley Forge, PA Posts: 30	I did a search to find this thread, in the hope of answering a question, but it doesn't seem to be here. So... Does anyone know when the KGB Generals began using stars on shoulder boards as insignia of rank?

03-23-2005, 07:44 PM	#18
Bill Dienna Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Valley Forge, PA Posts: 30	Sorry, Doug, that wasn't clear. What I am wondering is whether there was a time when NKVD/MGB Generals would have worn blue piped boards with stars, such as on a model kitel, after they did away with the "zig-zag" boards of the commisar rank.

03-31-2005, 03:24 PM	#20
Al-muell Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Wrocław, Poland Posts: 1,828	I have a rather silly question here... One of my best suppliers (Ukrainian) shown me an interesting thing this month. Here's the story: When he served in the army he once got sick (nothing unusual) and when he was in the hospital he met a soldier from a representative division, more specificaly, a cavaleryman from a regiment that was a part of it (I have even seen the collar insignia he got from the guy) and he said, that not only cavalerymen in that division wore dark-blue-coloured insignia. Wether it is true or not... (prepeare for a crazy theory)... What if a cavalery officer became a general (for me it is logical that a division has to be led by a general)? What uniform would he wear? Wouldn't it be something like those "KGB" (of course not in such numbers)? Try not to lough too loud.

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