Order Of Zhukov.

Esteban_cool · 10-11-2003, 08:54 PM

Look what I found. I know that most of you knew it, but I find that Zhukov does not deserve to be displayed on a....Fantasy-like (but it is not fantasy) piece! It looks like it, isn´t it?

HuliganRS · 10-11-2003, 11:38 PM

It is real.

Here's a larger pic:

Christophe · 10-12-2003, 02:39 AM

Here is this order's description :

Order of Zhukov (Orden Zhukova)

Established: May 9, 1994, by decree of president Yeltsyn (statutes from March 6, 1995)
Classes: single.
Star: a cross 50 x 50 mm, of four arms in the form of gold outlined red enameled gothic shields, with sets of six silver rays between them. Medallion: 24 mm of diameter, with the bust of Geoghi Zhukov en face on blue background. Above there is the semicircular inscription "Georghi Zhukov"; below a half laurel, half oak spray.
Ribbon bar: 24 mm, gold yellow with a broad white-blue-red stripe, 12 mm wide in the middle.

I agree : Marshal Zoukov deserves a specific and dedicated order... But, I have also to agree that this order is not designed with the quality Zhukov should have deserved.

But the quality of many Russia Federation's awards is in no way to compare with the Soviet Union's ones.

Ch.

Esteban_cool · 10-12-2003, 07:19 PM

Yes! ¡That´s what I was saying! If Zhukov shall be in an award which honors him, it should be much more than this... What I mean is that the piece does not combine with the character.

Esteban

new world · 10-14-2003, 11:33 PM

Friends,

Zhukov order is not only badly designed/manufactured, it also seems to be incorrect from chronological point of view.

On the center medallion Zhukov is wearing 1945 type parade uniform with 4 Hero SU Stars, which is impossible as his 4th Hero Star was given to him only in 1956.

By 1956 new uniform design was implemented (1954 type, double-breasted coat).

The correct portrait would be either 1945 uniform with 3 Heroes or 1954 uniform with 4 Hero Stars.:hurl

Best regards,
William

charlet · 10-15-2003, 06:20 AM

yes, but Russia cut between its imperial and its soviet past needed some legend and new myths for its people...so one or two details...but you're right.

HuliganRS · 10-15-2003, 08:28 AM

Has anyone actually held this order in their hands?

I would expect this one to be better than most current awards...

Rusty.

Esteban_cool · 10-17-2003, 01:31 PM

It would be very hard. It is now an official award of Russia, and with the laws made recently... And, personally, even if I´d have the oportunity to get it, I would reject.

Esteban

r-coll · 03-05-2006, 10:11 AM

Can anybody tell me its real price?

Dolf · 03-05-2006, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r-coll

Can anybody tell me its real price?

r-coll,

Welcome to the Forum.

About your question: as far as I know there is no such thing as a Zhukov Order!
All I know is two different Medals, one official and one not official, for the 100 Years of Zhukov.

Another thing is that on this collecting hobby (whatever one collects) there is no such thing as a "real price".
Anyway, you can find the official 100th Centennary of Zhukov Medal for around $5. As for the non official one (Umalatova Medal) you can find it from around $10 to $15. In both cases, these are approximative prices for the Medals not including the Docs. With the Docs they would cost a few bucks more.

Hope it helps.

Again, welcome to the best Forum around on Soviet awards :thumbsup

Dolf

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10-12-2003, 07:19 PM	#4
Esteban_cool Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santiago, Chile Age: 36 Posts: 1,103	Yes! ¡That´s what I was saying! If Zhukov shall be in an award which honors him, it should be much more than this... What I mean is that the piece does not combine with the character. Esteban __________________ There's nothing in the streets Looks any different to me And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye And the parting on the left Are now parting on the right And the beards have all grown longer overnight The Who, Won't get fooled again

10-15-2003, 06:20 AM	#6
charlet Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Germany Age: 49 Posts: 791	yes, but Russia cut between its imperial and its soviet past needed some legend and new myths for its people...so one or two details...but you're right. __________________ Sebastien "a spectre haunts Europe, the spectre of communism" (a well-known german bearbed)

10-15-2003, 08:28 AM	#7
HuliganRS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Illinois - U.S.A. Age: 46 Posts: 1,023	Has anyone actually held this order in their hands? I would expect this one to be better than most current awards... Rusty. __________________ "Be civil to all, sociable to many, familiar with few, friend to one, enemy to none." Benjamin Franklin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Member #193

10-17-2003, 01:31 PM	#8
Esteban_cool Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santiago, Chile Age: 36 Posts: 1,103	It would be very hard. It is now an official award of Russia, and with the laws made recently... And, personally, even if I´d have the oportunity to get it, I would reject. Esteban __________________ There's nothing in the streets Looks any different to me And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye And the parting on the left Are now parting on the right And the beards have all grown longer overnight The Who, Won't get fooled again

10-12-2003, 02:39 AM	#3
Christophe Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Paris - Berlin Age: 61 Posts: 1,208	Here is this order's description : Order of Zhukov (Orden Zhukova) Established: May 9, 1994, by decree of president Yeltsyn (statutes from March 6, 1995) Classes: single. Star: a cross 50 x 50 mm, of four arms in the form of gold outlined red enameled gothic shields, with sets of six silver rays between them. Medallion: 24 mm of diameter, with the bust of Geoghi Zhukov en face on blue background. Above there is the semicircular inscription "Georghi Zhukov"; below a half laurel, half oak spray. Ribbon bar: 24 mm, gold yellow with a broad white-blue-red stripe, 12 mm wide in the middle. I agree : Marshal Zoukov deserves a specific and dedicated order... But, I have also to agree that this order is not designed with the quality Zhukov should have deserved. But the quality of many Russia Federation's awards is in no way to compare with the Soviet Union's ones. Ch.

10-14-2003, 11:33 PM	#5
new world Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: NYC, USA Posts: 1,086	Friends, Zhukov order is not only badly designed/manufactured, it also seems to be incorrect from chronological point of view. On the center medallion Zhukov is wearing 1945 type parade uniform with 4 Hero SU Stars, which is impossible as his 4th Hero Star was given to him only in 1956. By 1956 new uniform design was implemented (1954 type, double-breasted coat). The correct portrait would be either 1945 uniform with 3 Heroes or 1954 uniform with 4 Hero Stars.:hurl Best regards, William

03-05-2006, 10:11 AM	#9
r-coll New Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2	Zhukov order Can anybody tell me its real price?

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