Questionable duplicate order of Lenin group

Shocktrooper · 09-10-2016, 01:36 PM

Hello everybody,

this group is for sale now. Is it genuine? Can anybody provide some information concerning this guy? Did he exist? Was he really a lieutenant colonel? What did he achieve?

Thank you very much!

Shocktrooper · 09-10-2016, 01:37 PM

More images to check...

Shocktrooper · 09-10-2016, 01:37 PM

And even more ...

***CtahhR*** · 09-10-2016, 03:14 PM

This person is fictional. I think the rest speaks for itself.

Shocktrooper · 09-10-2016, 04:54 PM

@CtahhR: why do you think so? I found this citation today.

***CtahhR*** · 09-10-2016, 05:04 PM

Yes you can find that.... but you can't find all that recipient's awards listed in this booklet... The name is very common but none of them had this array of awards. It's a good fake but fake never the less.

That is unless there is another page in this booklet recording his OPWII....

I could do the same with a fake group. Put the name Ivan Ivanov on the front page and you could find any award you like and line it up - but in the end it will be proved to be fake.

Shocktrooper · 09-16-2016, 01:51 AM

@CtahhR: Finally I got the award card from the archive and re really got all these awards!?

***CtahhR*** · 09-16-2016, 03:28 AM

Sometimes too good to be true is too. Maybe the boundaries need to be shifted here a little. The Combat Merits will be for service during the Civil War.

09-10-2016, 03:14 PM	#4
*CtahhR* Forum Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Deep In The Archives. Age: 17 Posts: 12,074	Re: Questionable duplicate order of Lenin group This person is fictional. I think the rest speaks for itself. __________________ "Signed with his own rubber stamp"

09-10-2016, 05:04 PM	#6
*CtahhR* Forum Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Deep In The Archives. Age: 17 Posts: 12,074	Re: Questionable duplicate order of Lenin group Yes you can find that.... but you can't find all that recipient's awards listed in this booklet... The name is very common but none of them had this array of awards. It's a good fake but fake never the less. That is unless there is another page in this booklet recording his OPWII.... I could do the same with a fake group. Put the name Ivan Ivanov on the front page and you could find any award you like and line it up - but in the end it will be proved to be fake. __________________ "Signed with his own rubber stamp"

09-16-2016, 01:51 AM	#7
Shocktrooper Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Germany Age: 48 Posts: 105	Re: Questionable duplicate order of Lenin group @CtahhR: Finally I got the award card from the archive and re really got all these awards!? Last edited by Shocktrooper; 09-27-2016 at 04:56 AM.

09-16-2016, 03:28 AM	#8
*CtahhR* Forum Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Deep In The Archives. Age: 17 Posts: 12,074	Re: Questionable duplicate order of Lenin group Sometimes too good to be true is too. Maybe the boundaries need to be shifted here a little. The Combat Merits will be for service during the Civil War. __________________ "Signed with his own rubber stamp"

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