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Old 01-08-2012, 05:40 PM   #21
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Re: The History Of Suspension?

As this is not a forum that deals with US awards or awards of the post-1945 "American Bloc", I shall stay quiet.

I could say much, having done an undergraduate thesis on the evolution of a US awards "system". (No place ever had a "system", they just made it up and they went along and things changed massively over time, something collectors often wish to ignore.)
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Re: The History Of Suspension?

Which DPRK awards had the 5 sided "Danish" suspensions? They usually had vertical sides similar to the Czechoslovakia Medals with the exception of some which are on 4 sided suspensions similar to Hero Stars (and some not so similar) and at least one (the Friendship Medal) has a Mongolian style suspension.
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I would be at ease to discuss almost anything but of course these subjects do go far beyond the purpose of the forum. Firstly though to speak of "American" corruption first "American" must be defined... It is the current people of two continents? Is it the Cree and Cherokee and 500+ other tribes' influences? or Is it the corrupted Anglophonic culture placed through manifest destiny over the North American continent that is a complete product of British but primarily English colonial expansionism brought on through a culture of invasion, subjugation and expansion which was in turn inherited from migrations of warriors from Mainland Europe and Scandinavia over thousands of years. The debate can get just as philosophical and political as historically factual but at the end of the day the entire earths inhabitants are influenced by many natural and man made factors.
Coca-cola, Disney and others marketing guys didn't use such philosophical argumentation in their everyday work, but let's stop feeding the troll
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Re: The History Of Suspension?

The evolution of awards worldwide is a very complicated thing indeed but I'm sure if there were no wars or conflicts at all there would be FAR less in the way of awards out there in number of those instituted and issued.

Awards are very much an extension of politics and some times far more overtly than others.
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Re: The History Of Suspension?

I suppose if you want someone to blame for Disney and Coca-cola (both of which do not issue military awards - YET!), I suppose you could blame those who invented money way back when.

I personally would focus more "irritation" at Graco and Lordship....
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nothing to say to this good classification, except about GDR: the major part of their awards had their specific pentagonal suspension, copied by Cuba.
The DDR awards were pentagonal, but of a very different geometry (see below). I suspect many Cuban awards were made in the DDR? As many Albanian awards, for a time, were made in Yugoslavia.
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nothing to say to this good classification, except about GDR: the major part of their awards had their specific pentagonal suspension, copied by Cuba.
I think this is what Ed meant by "with very different geometry"...

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I suppose if you want someone to blame for Disney and Coca-cola (both of which do not issue military awards - YET!), I suppose you could blame those who invented money way back when.

I personally would focus more "irritation" at Graco and Lordship....
Well, actually, there is an unofficial (of course) medal for the opening of the first McDonalds' in Moscow.

But that is off-topic, as it is in standard Soviet style.
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I think this is what Ed meant by "with very different geometry"...

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Ed was perfectly right with his statement about GDR specific pentagonal geometry; I just wanted to correct his sentence "for some things only". The pentagonal suspension was not affected to some things only, but to the vast majority of their official orders, prizes and medals
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