Damaged, Repair, Clean, Preserve Soviet Awards And Documents. - Page 21

Riley1965 · 03-25-2006, 04:10 PM

Thanks Art

That is just what I needed to know.

Doc

Riley1965 · 04-02-2006, 12:26 PM

I have a Defense of the Caucasus Medal with a seperate ring. The ring has detached from the medal. Is there anything I need to know regarding re-soldering the ring?

Thanks,
Doc

Lapa · 04-02-2006, 04:43 PM

Doc,

Don't use tin solder, it ends up black.

Marc

Riley1965 · 04-02-2006, 04:50 PM

Marc,
Thank You.

What type of solder would you recommend?

Regards,
Doc

Nack · 05-22-2006, 09:25 AM

Can someone reccomend a cheap portable blacklight?

Dave · 05-22-2006, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nack

Can someone reccomend a cheap portable blacklight?

Try these folks. I can't recommend them as I have never dealt with them before, but they do have a decent selection...

http://blacklightshop.com/

Dave

Mozzabloke · 07-21-2006, 12:38 PM

I have an order of glory 3rd class which has been gold plated to pass as a 2nd class.

Basically I got stung and found out when there was no research to come back!

I would like to remove the plating and restore it to its former glory (no pun intended!).

Does anyone know how to do this without damaging the order?

Thanks

Mark

Taz · 07-21-2006, 05:31 PM

hi Mark,
Hydrochloric acid removes gold plating but probably everything else too, gold has a low melting point so in therory you could try and melt it off taking care not to use too much heat. It also buffs off but also not a very good option.
Mercury removes it as well , not sure what effect that would have though.

Regards Eddie

EricFG · 07-21-2006, 06:41 PM

I wonder if the electro-chemical process used to electroplate can be reversed?
I know there is a process I used to remove 'crud' from ancient buried coins that involved electricity. Maybe something similar?
In any event it's a question for someone a lot smarter than I.

Taz · 07-22-2006, 06:43 AM

Hi Eric,
I was thinking along those lines too until i read this, I quote:

"In theory, it seems it should be possible to electrically strip the plating off of an object by the opposite process by which the metal was applied by switching the positive and negative leads. i.e.-applying the anode (the positive lead) to the piece you are attempting to remove the plating from. I have attempted this process with less than satisfactory results".

Maybe he did somthing wrong, I cant be sure, but it seems that it doesn't work so good in practice.

regards Eddie

View Poll Results: Repair or not
Leave the damn thing alone! Don't mess with what looks like a period repair	12	54.55%
Have the solder removed to make the serial number readable	9	40.91%
Repair the enamel only	0	0%
Remove the solder AND repair the enamel	1	4.55%
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03-25-2006, 04:10 PM	#201
Riley1965 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 612	Preserving documents Thanks Art That is just what I needed to know. Doc

04-02-2006, 12:26 PM	#202
Riley1965 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 612	Reparing a medal I have a Defense of the Caucasus Medal with a seperate ring. The ring has detached from the medal. Is there anything I need to know regarding re-soldering the ring? Thanks, Doc

04-02-2006, 04:50 PM	#204
Riley1965 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 612	Reparing a medal Marc, Thank You. What type of solder would you recommend? Regards, Doc

07-21-2006, 12:38 PM	#207
Mozzabloke Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sheffield, England Age: 49 Posts: 104	Removing gold plating I have an order of glory 3rd class which has been gold plated to pass as a 2nd class. Basically I got stung and found out when there was no research to come back! I would like to remove the plating and restore it to its former glory (no pun intended!). Does anyone know how to do this without damaging the order? Thanks Mark

04-02-2006, 04:43 PM	#203
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	Doc, Don't use tin solder, it ends up black. Marc

05-22-2006, 09:25 AM	#205
Nack Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The Buckeye State Age: 46 Posts: 513	Can someone reccomend a cheap portable blacklight?

07-21-2006, 05:31 PM	#208
Taz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Herford, Germany Age: 65 Posts: 2,152	hi Mark, Hydrochloric acid removes gold plating but probably everything else too, gold has a low melting point so in therory you could try and melt it off taking care not to use too much heat. It also buffs off but also not a very good option. Mercury removes it as well , not sure what effect that would have though. Regards Eddie __________________ Everybody's equal, But some more than others! "Those who come to us with the sword - will be killed by the sword" - Alexander Nevski

07-21-2006, 06:41 PM	#209
EricFG Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Naples, Florida, USA Age: 59 Posts: 1,496	I wonder if the electro-chemical process used to electroplate can be reversed? I know there is a process I used to remove 'crud' from ancient buried coins that involved electricity. Maybe something similar? In any event it's a question for someone a lot smarter than I. __________________ "patina imparts character" - PJS A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.'

07-22-2006, 06:43 AM	#210
Taz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Herford, Germany Age: 65 Posts: 2,152	Electrically strip plating Hi Eric, I was thinking along those lines too until i read this, I quote: "In theory, it seems it should be possible to electrically strip the plating off of an object by the opposite process by which the metal was applied by switching the positive and negative leads. i.e.-applying the anode (the positive lead) to the piece you are attempting to remove the plating from. I have attempted this process with less than satisfactory results". Maybe he did somthing wrong, I cant be sure, but it seems that it doesn't work so good in practice. regards Eddie __________________ Everybody's equal, But some more than others! "Those who come to us with the sword - will be killed by the sword" - Alexander Nevski

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