Photographs Of Recipients Of Soviet Awards/Service Personnel. - Page 13

Esteban_cool · 06-17-2003, 08:22 PM

The Nazi influence on DDR uniforms is impressing...

vikingraider1 · 06-17-2003, 08:43 PM

Yes, the open necked tunics are similar to Waffen SS officers parade tunics. The cap device is reasonably similar to the wartime Luftwaffe officer caps. West German Bundeswehr uniforms were quite similar to the wartime German uniforms too.

ibaya · 06-17-2003, 11:07 PM

I remember reading a history of the NVA (National People's Army), and it mentioned that the East Germans introduced Soviet-style uniforms for their militias and border guards. Because of negative reaction from the public, they abandoned it for uniforms more reminiscent of the Wehrmacht. Pretty funny for a government that claimed a complete break from the history and responsibilty of the previous Nazi regime.

Some of this is reflected in West Germany, too. For a while, their firefighters still wore the WW2 era Stahlhelm (steel helmet).

German military uniform and tradition have influenced many armies, the Soviet Army among them. The wreaths on the Soviet enlisted dress cap badge and the air force/airborne forces badge have the same basic leaf arrangement as the basic German officer/NCO badge. And of course, there is the Stechschritt (goosestep) ...

Esteban_cool · 06-19-2003, 08:22 PM

Bone Collector:
You´re right. The assasin down here looked worse, as you said:D
The chilean army was founded by german military and instructors.
In parades, conscripts, officers and junior officers still use the typical german helmets. However, the navy and air force have adopted a more "USA" style. The army is as german as always, but watching more closely, there is some notorious difference. But I can´t see it so superficially.

Esteban

new world · 06-19-2003, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by charlet
I confirm obsreving the B&W photo they're wearing the full set of hero of Narodni Republici Bulgaria, a gold xtar extremly close to the soviet one and an order of georgi dimitrov.

...

Charlet,

The cosmonauts are wearing Hero of Socialist Labor gold stars, not Hero of Narodni Republic Bulgaria. I am sure as I look at the picture in my hands.

William

kabanchik · 06-19-2003, 09:39 PM

A historical footnote:

Today is the 40th anniversary of the flight of the first woman in space, Valentina Tereshkova, now 66 years old. May long life, health, and prosperity be hers!

"VYECHNAYA SLAVA SOVIETSKAM COSMONAVTAM!!"

charlet · 06-20-2003, 03:07 AM

William, I trust you, I didn't see the very little grains on the pic on my screen. It is true they normally receive the complete hero set instead of hero work...

new world · 06-20-2003, 05:05 AM

Charlet,

Hero of Bulgaria is very rare award with only 58 recepients.

They didn't just give Hero NRB to any foreeign citizens, Bulgarians were more strict in awarding Hero NRB than Soviets were.

William

new world · 07-13-2003, 10:53 PM

Colleagues,

Here's cover of old BorderGuard magazine with photo of full cavalier of Order For Service to Motherland in the Armed Forces.

His name is Colonel Agapov.

William

Tal Inbar · 07-14-2003, 06:04 AM

And they are all service to the motherland!

Very nice....(If the picture was from ebay I would have asked about order of Lenin etc.....)

Tal

06-17-2003, 08:22 PM	#121
Esteban_cool Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santiago, Chile Age: 36 Posts: 1,103	The Nazi influence on DDR uniforms is impressing... __________________ There's nothing in the streets Looks any different to me And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye And the parting on the left Are now parting on the right And the beards have all grown longer overnight The Who, Won't get fooled again

06-17-2003, 08:43 PM	#122
vikingraider1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: London, Home of West Ham United Age: 54 Posts: 328	Yes, the open necked tunics are similar to Waffen SS officers parade tunics. The cap device is reasonably similar to the wartime Luftwaffe officer caps. West German Bundeswehr uniforms were quite similar to the wartime German uniforms too. __________________ "We can truly say that the whole circuit of the earth is girdled with the graves of our dead... and, in the course of my pilgrimage, I have many times asked myself whether there can be more potent advocates of peace upon earth through the years to come, than this massed multitude of silent witnesses to the desolation of war." King George V, Flanders, 1922

06-19-2003, 08:22 PM	#124
Esteban_cool Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santiago, Chile Age: 36 Posts: 1,103	Bone Collector: You´re right. The assasin down here looked worse, as you said:D The chilean army was founded by german military and instructors. In parades, conscripts, officers and junior officers still use the typical german helmets. However, the navy and air force have adopted a more "USA" style. The army is as german as always, but watching more closely, there is some notorious difference. But I can´t see it so superficially. Esteban __________________ There's nothing in the streets Looks any different to me And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye And the parting on the left Are now parting on the right And the beards have all grown longer overnight The Who, Won't get fooled again

06-20-2003, 03:07 AM	#127
charlet Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Germany Age: 49 Posts: 791	William, I trust you, I didn't see the very little grains on the pic on my screen. It is true they normally receive the complete hero set instead of hero work... __________________ Sebastien "a spectre haunts Europe, the spectre of communism" (a well-known german bearbed)

07-14-2003, 06:04 AM	#130
Tal Inbar Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Israel Age: 55 Posts: 2,302	Only 3 orders...? And they are all service to the motherland! Very nice....(If the picture was from ebay I would have asked about order of Lenin etc.....) Tal __________________ Under the banner of Marxism-Leninism, under the leadership of the Communist Party--forward to new victories in the construction of communism!

06-17-2003, 11:07 PM	#123
ibaya Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Maryland, USA Age: 54 Posts: 200	I remember reading a history of the NVA (National People's Army), and it mentioned that the East Germans introduced Soviet-style uniforms for their militias and border guards. Because of negative reaction from the public, they abandoned it for uniforms more reminiscent of the Wehrmacht. Pretty funny for a government that claimed a complete break from the history and responsibilty of the previous Nazi regime. Some of this is reflected in West Germany, too. For a while, their firefighters still wore the WW2 era Stahlhelm (steel helmet). German military uniform and tradition have influenced many armies, the Soviet Army among them. The wreaths on the Soviet enlisted dress cap badge and the air force/airborne forces badge have the same basic leaf arrangement as the basic German officer/NCO badge. And of course, there is the Stechschritt (goosestep) ...

06-19-2003, 09:39 PM	#126
kabanchik Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Huntington Beach, CA USA Age: 71 Posts: 80	A historical footnote: Today is the 40th anniversary of the flight of the first woman in space, Valentina Tereshkova, now 66 years old. May long life, health, and prosperity be hers! "VYECHNAYA SLAVA SOVIETSKAM COSMONAVTAM!!"

06-20-2003, 05:05 AM	#128
new world Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: NYC, USA Posts: 1,086	Charlet, Hero of Bulgaria is very rare award with only 58 recepients. They didn't just give Hero NRB to any foreeign citizens, Bulgarians were more strict in awarding Hero NRB than Soviets were. William

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