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Old 04-13-2004, 05:08 PM   #1
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Order of the Red Banner of Labor GSSR 1931

Type 1931 Order of the Red Banner of Labor GSSR ( Republic of Georgia )
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Old 04-13-2004, 05:17 PM   #2
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Duplicate Order Book

Duplicate Order Book, this is for the Order of the Red Banner of Labor GSSR 1931, #72.
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Old 04-13-2004, 09:26 PM   #3
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Art,

I believe the Order Book isn't legitimate.

It's just blanc book with un-official entries - no stamps or signatures observed.

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Old 04-13-2004, 11:24 PM   #4
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I have seen exactly one of these in 2.5 years of looking at a LOT of collections and awards here in Georgia. It will not be for sale during the life of that collector. I have a standing order promising to buy any one that I can confirm (with his help) as legitimate. I don't ever expect that order to be fullfilled.

This past Easter Sunday I was chatting with a guy who is probably the leading collector of Azeri Soviet orders, medals and badges. For an Azeri Red Banner, he says he is willing to travel anywhere to examine and buy any legitimate Azeri Red Banner or RBL. Whoever has these two is, indeed, an advanced and fortunate collector.

Sign me ... Envious in Tbilisi
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Old 04-14-2004, 03:52 PM   #5
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William,

I have doubts regarding the usage of the booklet. I was told it was to keep a record of what awards were given to the recipient. I don't believe it was given with the awards as we have seen typical books issued. As you point out, there are no official stamps anywhere. None the less, I felt it was interesting for all to see it.

Chuck,

Nice aren't they? The collector who bought them (the two Georgian awards and one Transcaucasian award) paid $5000 USD for them in 1992. I've seen a few specimens of the Azerbaijan Red Banner of Labor before, but never the Georgian awards. It's a pleasure to get a nice closeup look of them. I asked the collector to send me big 300 DPI .tiff scans of the awards also. If anyone is interested in getting an even better look PM me and I'll email whichever you want.

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Old 04-14-2004, 04:02 PM   #6
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... The collector who bought them (the two Georgian awards and one Transcaucasian award) paid $5000 USD for them in 1992.
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Just curios, how much would they cost today?

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Depends on which dealer will be listing them! :D
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William,

I would estimate he could get $5,000 USD each for them today with no problem. Maybe Eugene can comment here, as I believe he has roughly priced the Republican awards market.


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Just curios, how much would they cost today?

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I would estimate he could get $5,000 USD each for them today with no problem. Maybe Eugene can comment here, as I believe he has roughly priced the Republican awards market.


Herfurth has this one listed with a price of € 7160.
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Georgian Red Banner of Labor

I think you'll like this one.

I said that my "Hero of the Capture of Tbilisi" was likely the rarest badge I will ever own. Well, I have no doubt that this is the rarest -- and most expensive -- order I will ever own or even just have a chance to examine up close.

I don't have a photo for comparison or even a detailed text regarding this order. The only thing that comes close is the image in Avers 6 which is of an acknowledged copy. There are some differences between this badge and the one in Avers 6. For one thing, mine is unnumbered, as I believe this variant should be. The pieces are subtly different and several, like the star, attach quite differently.

So, is mine real? I think so. However, it is not one of the items that I bought directly from a family. This came out of a very old man's collection. He is pretty well respected and knowledgeable and I believe this is an authentic order. It likely came out of the museum I mentioned in another post. However, that is something that most people only allude to, they don't readily admit it or advertise the fact. I do not represent that it did, for the purposes of this post. I admit to paying a high price in the belief that it is original, but I also admit to less than 100% certainty. Such is life. I wanted it and I took the chance.

I get lost counting, but I think there are 12 pieces. It is silver with high-quality transparent red enamel and opaque white enamel and the hammer and sickle appear to be solid gold. There are 25 rays underneath the star enamel and several dozen underneath the flag enamel. The greenish or off-color tint on the reverse image is just from my scanner light. There are no hallmarks.

The screw plate is also interesting, but I have no idea whether it is original because I can find no reference to compare it to. On the bottom is reads "M.T.X." At the top it reads "Emalyernaya” and right below that “F-KA". It has a mirror reverse.

When I get around to it and figure out how to do it, I think I'll use this order in my avatar. Is that the right word, "avatar"? The image and info underneath our user name when we post? Yeah, you know what I mean.

In the meantime, I will welcome your comments and I hope you enjoy this one.

Chuck
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