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Old 10-20-2012, 03:27 AM   #1
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Re: Fake Orders of Lenin

IMO, those two nicks may not be related. As far as can be seen (here I go again... :rolleyes:), the enamel has not been damaged.

One has to remember that gold is a very soft metal when unalloyed. Since later OLs were produced using 950/1000 pure gold, nicks are almost unavoidable.

In conclusion, this is a nice looking OL in usual, normal condition.

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Old 11-13-2012, 05:59 AM   #2
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Re: Fake Orders of Lenin

Hello guys ;)

what is your opinion on this Lenin order?
is it type4 var2 ?

Hope photo quality is good enough to decide.
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Old 11-13-2012, 03:30 PM   #3
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Strange mintmark!
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:00 PM   #4
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So this one is also fake?
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Old 11-14-2012, 03:13 AM   #5
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I tend to think so.

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Old 11-14-2012, 03:34 AM   #6
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Hi,

it most likely is a fake; less detail on Lenin`s portrait, crude stamped number, strange screwpost base with obvious fake patina (to hide solder ?), missing wearing traces and genuine patina, the uncommon "outer rim" seen on some parts of the edge of the reverse, etc.

But at the first glimpse the obverse looked quite convincing ;)

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Old 11-14-2012, 07:22 AM   #7
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Maybe higher res photos could be helpfull to decide for sure? ;)
i could get them i think
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Old 11-14-2012, 07:31 AM   #8
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Hi,

it most likely is a fake; less detail on Lenin`s portrait, crude stamped number, strange screwpost base with obvious fake patina (to hide solder ?), missing wearing traces and genuine patina, the uncommon "outer rim" seen on some parts of the edge of the reverse, etc.

But at the first glimpse the obverse looked quite convincing ;)

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could be juste a suspension-type converted to produce a fake?

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Strange mintmark!
the letters seem thickier compared to photos on mondvor.narod.ru?
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Seb,

Most likely a later, suspension type from whose SN a digit was erased.
I wouldn't mind larger, higher-resolution scans.

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Old 11-15-2012, 07:12 AM   #10
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Hope this helps:
this is best what i can get at the moment

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