Fake Ushakov Medals - Page 6

Alfred · 08-20-2010, 02:51 PM

Hi,

what do you think about this Ushakov medal with s/n: 10.486.

A good casting copy?

regards and thanks
Andreas

ph3s · 08-20-2010, 03:08 PM

What makes you think it's a cast copy? Don't get me wrong if you have hold it in your hands and have examined/looked at it trough a good magnifier and you can see casting, it is. But according to this photos it's perfectly fine Ushakov medal, all the watermarks present so I'm confused :confused:

Alfred · 08-20-2010, 03:37 PM

What do you think about this lines on the letters A K O?

I am not totally sure about the medal.

Here is the award book with "strange" entry of the Ushakov and a 50 year anniversary medal.

regards
Andreas

ph3s · 08-20-2010, 04:00 PM

I think it's hits or die was getting older. I can't see any casting signs, even die-cast must have that 'nice' dotty surface.

Jeffrey Meffert · 08-20-2010, 04:52 PM

The booklet seems a bit odd. Does the seller offer a story about why this was being awarded in 1966? Or are we saying this is a reissue booklet?

Alfred · 08-21-2010, 01:41 AM

No story behind this medal and book.

I bought it around 1995 and somebody told me many years ago this is a fake.
I´ll put it in a box and forgot it. That´s all.

best regards
Andreas

ph3s · 08-21-2010, 02:39 AM

Quote:

Or are we saying this is a reissue booklet?

No Ukaz(Order to be granted) is 1966

Wondering, what the person must done in 1966 to be awarded by Ushakov medal?

Lapa · 08-21-2010, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ph3s

No Ukaz(Order to be granted) is 1966

Wondering, what the person must done in 1966 to be awarded by Ushakov medal?

It would most likely be a catch-up award.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ph3s

...I can't see any casting signs, even die-cast must have that 'nice' dotty surface.

Not always, unfortunately. Fakers have vastly improved their techniques, and the days of the obvious, "pebbled" surface are long over

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfred

...A good casting copy?

Andreas,

At first glance, I tend to like it; apart from the defects you pointed out, all seems to be as it should.

Marc

Nota Bene · 08-22-2010, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfred

Hi,

what do you think about this Ushakov medal witn s/n: 10.486.

A good casting copy?

regards andd thanks
Andreas

Andreas,

I am guessing it's the serial number that has you confused. I believe the medal is genuine.

Alexei

Alfred · 08-22-2010, 03:46 PM

Thanks Alexei,

yes the "deep" serial number the strange entry in the award book confused me.
Strange stamp of Ushakov medal and the 50 years aniversary medal stamp.

best regards
Andreas

08-20-2010, 03:08 PM	#52
ph3s Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: £ U.c K. Posts: 189	Re: Fake Ushakov Medals What makes you think it's a cast copy? Don't get me wrong if you have hold it in your hands and have examined/looked at it trough a good magnifier and you can see casting, it is. But according to this photos it's perfectly fine Ushakov medal, all the watermarks present so I'm confused :confused: __________________ whatever doesn't kill you, simply makes you stranger (c)

08-20-2010, 04:52 PM	#55
Jeffrey Meffert Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas, USA Age: 67 Posts: 640	Re: Fake Ushakov Medals The booklet seems a bit odd. Does the seller offer a story about why this was being awarded in 1966? Or are we saying this is a reissue booklet? Last edited by Jeffrey Meffert; 08-20-2010 at 04:55 PM.

08-21-2010, 01:41 AM	#56
Alfred Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germany, Cologne Posts: 626	Re: Fake Ushakov Medals No story behind this medal and book. I bought it around 1995 and somebody told me many years ago this is a fake. I´ll put it in a box and forgot it. That´s all. best regards Andreas

08-22-2010, 03:46 PM	#60
Alfred Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germany, Cologne Posts: 626	Re: Fake Ushakov Medals Thanks Alexei, yes the "deep" serial number the strange entry in the award book confused me. Strange stamp of Ushakov medal and the 50 years aniversary medal stamp. best regards Andreas

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