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01-07-2009, 03:49 PM | #1 |
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OPW 1st class group
Dear members,
what do you think about this group, especially about the entries in the award book. best regards Andreas |
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01-07-2009, 03:59 PM | #2 |
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Re: OGPW 1st class group
more pictures and information:
Red Star 464.501 Red Star 491.696 OGPW II 255.586 OGPW I 130.524 Red Banner 245.718 |
01-07-2009, 04:50 PM | #3 |
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Re: OGPW 1st class group
The 15 years irreproachable service medal has the ribbon for the 10 year medal. See pictures below.
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01-07-2009, 06:42 PM | #4 |
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Re: OGPW 1st class group
Stahanov,
I don't like the entries. Why would the ink have faded everywhere except on the serial numbers? Marc |
01-07-2009, 08:03 PM | #5 |
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Re: OGPW 1st class group
Andreas,
Could you please also post the name page of the Order Booklet. Alexei |
01-08-2009, 01:33 AM | #6 |
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Re: OGPW 1st class group
I don't like the fact that the inks and handwriting are different for the awards above, then the dates below - not a deal killer, but wierd.
Then, when I checked the numbers on my data base, the decorations were from different fronts - 1 Ukrainian (or 2 Baltic since the # is on an award bloc "seam"), 1 Belorussian, and 2 Belorussian. Three of the awards were awarded by the 2 Belorussian, so some of these could, actually belong to one person. As I've said before, this wide array of fronts is a possibility, but not a high probability of being awarded to one person. Finally, according to the booklet the recipient was earning awards in some capacity (soldier/officer?) as early as '43, then 15 years later in '58 he is still a captain. Not impossibile, but an awfully long time to only make it as high as captain. |
01-08-2009, 04:03 AM | #7 |
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Re: OGPW 1st class group
Thanks you very much for your answers.
I try to get a picture of the first page with the name of the soldier. best regards Andreas |
01-08-2009, 04:24 AM | #8 |
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Re: OGPW 1st class group
Here is a picture of the first page of the award book with the name.
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01-08-2009, 07:53 AM | #9 |
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Re: OGPW 1st class group
Andreas (sorry for calling you Stahanov earlier),
The front page further confirms my opinion :thumbsdown Marc |
01-08-2009, 12:33 PM | #10 |
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Re: OGPW 1st class group
Hi Marc,
thanks for your oppinion. best regards Andreas |
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