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Old 01-07-2009, 03:49 PM   #1
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OPW 1st class group

Dear members,

what do you think about this group, especially about the entries in the award book.

best regards
Andreas
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Old 01-07-2009, 03:59 PM   #2
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Re: OGPW 1st class group

more pictures and information:

Red Star 464.501
Red Star 491.696
OGPW II 255.586
OGPW I 130.524
Red Banner 245.718
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Old 01-07-2009, 04:50 PM   #3
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Re: OGPW 1st class group

The 15 years irreproachable service medal has the ribbon for the 10 year medal. See pictures below.
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Old 01-07-2009, 06:42 PM   #4
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Re: OGPW 1st class group

Stahanov,

I don't like the entries. Why would the ink have faded everywhere except on the serial numbers?

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Old 01-07-2009, 08:03 PM   #5
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Re: OGPW 1st class group

Andreas,

Could you please also post the name page of the Order Booklet.

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Old 01-08-2009, 01:33 AM   #6
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Re: OGPW 1st class group

I don't like the fact that the inks and handwriting are different for the awards above, then the dates below - not a deal killer, but wierd.

Then, when I checked the numbers on my data base, the decorations were from different fronts - 1 Ukrainian (or 2 Baltic since the # is on an award bloc "seam"), 1 Belorussian, and 2 Belorussian. Three of the awards were awarded by the 2 Belorussian, so some of these could, actually belong to one person. As I've said before, this wide array of fronts is a possibility, but not a high probability of being awarded to one person.

Finally, according to the booklet the recipient was earning awards in some capacity (soldier/officer?) as early as '43, then 15 years later in '58 he is still a captain. Not impossibile, but an awfully long time to only make it as high as captain.
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Old 01-08-2009, 04:03 AM   #7
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Re: OGPW 1st class group

Thanks you very much for your answers.

I try to get a picture of the first page with the name of the soldier.

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Old 01-08-2009, 04:24 AM   #8
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Here is a picture of the first page of the award book with the name.
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Old 01-08-2009, 07:53 AM   #9
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Andreas (sorry for calling you Stahanov earlier),

The front page further confirms my opinion :thumbsdown

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Old 01-08-2009, 12:33 PM   #10
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Hi Marc,

thanks for your oppinion.

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