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Old 09-07-2008, 04:04 AM   #1
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Badge "For Strengthening Military Friendship".

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Old 12-05-2011, 07:06 PM   #2
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Badge "For Strengthening Military Friendship".

Ok, it is Czech and the one word is friendship.

Real or fake and what year pls?

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Old 12-08-2011, 11:59 AM   #3
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On the first badge the next to last word is "military" so I'm guessing a Brothers-In-Arms badge. I also believe this scene was taken from a famous WWII photograph of Soviet "liberators" linking up with Czech/Slovak partisans or soldiers.

Here's the associated doc awarded to a Soviet soldier.
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Old 01-22-2012, 12:54 PM   #4
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Re: Badge "For Strengthening Military Friendship".

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Here's the associated doc awarded to a Soviet soldier.
Neat. I don't often come across Soviet Era documents from Czechoslovakia. It's like they had giant doc burning parties throughout the country/countries - and I can't blame them after the 1968 "Prague Spring."

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Old 01-24-2012, 04:15 AM   #5
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Re: Badge "For Strengthening Military Friendship".

Most probably real, awards from the Eastern Bloc are most often real, as there is only a very small market for counterfeit items. It is one of the upsides of buying soviet bloc items, instead of USSR, the bad side is, there are less refference materials and experts that specialize in the subject, hence it is also harder to positivley confirm the authenticity of them.

At a glance, from the picture, I also see nothing that is an outright red flag and it came with the doc, so I would presume it is real. That being said, though, I am no expert.
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Old 01-24-2012, 04:50 AM   #6
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Re: Badge "For Strengthening Military Friendship".

Don't fall into the trap of being complacent with thinking the fakes aren't out there as if it can be faked it will be, if it can't someone will still try. I've got a fake Soviet "Veteran Of Labour" packaged up with a fake Bulgarian Order "People's Liberty 1941-1944" 2nd Class, two awards of minimal monetary value even when real. References, especially in English can be few and far between if they even exist at all. There are no fully comprehensive guides to any of the nations in any format or language. As soon as someone thinks they have researched everything to the ends of the earth and publishes a book, something new pops up.

Although the Soviet Union gets the most attention thrown at it , there are considerably more awards that need to be studied and understood from each and every Soviet aligned nation post 1945 (Not only due to the fact that all of their awards were created during that time). Soviet awards are far easier to collect and discuss as they were produced in far greater number than the awards of the smaller nations.

This section of this forum needs and will get vast expansion. With the input of the vast combined knowledge of the users I'm sure we can make a solid yet flexible resource.
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Old 01-24-2012, 08:07 AM   #7
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Most probably real, awards from the Eastern Bloc are most often real, as there is only a very small market for counterfeit items. It is one of the upsides of buying soviet bloc items, instead of USSR, the bad side is, there are less refference materials and experts that specialize in the subject, hence it is also harder to positivley confirm the authenticity of them.

At a glance, from the picture, I also see nothing that is an outright red flag and it came with the doc, so I would presume it is real. That being said, though, I am no expert.
gents, the badge is genuine; and it is not really a scarce piece. But the doc is quite a nice add!

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Don't fall into the trap of being complacent with thinking the fakes aren't out there as if it can be faked it will be, if it can't someone will still try. I've got a fake Soviet "Veteran Of Labour" packaged up with a fake Bulgarian Order "People's Liberty 1941-1944" 2nd Class, two awards of minimal monetary value even when real. References, especially in English can be few and far between if they even exist at all. There are no fully comprehensive guides to any of the nations in any format or language. As soon as someone thinks they have researched everything to the ends of the earth and publishes a book, something new pops up.

Although the Soviet Union gets the most attention thrown at it , there are considerably more awards that need to be studied and understood from each and every Soviet aligned nation post 1945 (Not only due to the fact that all of their awards were created during that time). Soviet awards are far easier to collect and discuss as they were produced in far greater number than the awards of the smaller nations.
the quality of counterfeits does match the high level of demand for soviet awards... we rely upon high-quality russian-speaking doc.
About satellites nations, some docs start to emerge, sometimes in english langage (GDR, Bulgaria, Hungary...)
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Re: Badge "For Strengthening Military Friendship".

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Don't fall into the trap of being complacent with thinking the fakes aren't out there as if it can be faked it will be, if it can't someone will still try. I've got a fake Soviet "Veteran Of Labour" packaged up with a fake Bulgarian Order "People's Liberty 1941-1944" 2nd Class, two awards of minimal monetary value even when real. References, especially in English can be few and far between if they even exist at all. There are no fully comprehensive guides to any of the nations in any format or language. As soon as someone thinks they have researched everything to the ends of the earth and publishes a book, something new pops up.

Although the Soviet Union gets the most attention thrown at it , there are considerably more awards that need to be studied and understood from each and every Soviet aligned nation post 1945 (Not only due to the fact that all of their awards were created during that time). Soviet awards are far easier to collect and discuss as they were produced in far greater number than the awards of the smaller nations.

This section of this forum needs and will get vast expansion. With the input of the vast combined knowledge of the users I'm sure we can make a solid yet flexible resource.
There are fakes of pretty much all badges, but the soviet block counterfeits are pretty rare and hard to find. You are much more likeley to come across a real item, than a fake one.
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Re: Badge "For Strengthening Military Friendship".

That is true with most of the items most of the time. So far I have just over 1400 Bulgarian awards in my collection and have only been sold two "bad" items. I suppose with the Soviet items you can buy 1400 items and have two good items if you like buying from the Baltic Mint.
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That is true with most of the items most of the time. So far I have just over 1400 Bulgarian awards in my collection and have only been sold two "bad" items. I suppose with the Soviet items you can buy 1400 items and have two good items if you like buying from the Baltic Mint.
could we consider the first parameter is the offer and demand law? As soon as an item show some interest, faking will start?
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