Fake Orders of the Red Star - Page 2

USSR · 03-04-2013, 12:51 PM

Thanks guys! I will stay away from it!

Bill Garvy; apparently the order is not only for sale on E but on an other auction site as well... Could it be in two different places at the same time? :cool:

Bill Garvy · 03-04-2013, 04:29 PM

As the only reasonable explanation, many are being manufactured utilizing that very same serial number. I too have seen them in different places and being sold by different vendors.

05-10-2013, 11:22 AM

Hi! I have a badge that I am trying to find out if it's authentic or not. My Grandfather had it in his footlocker. According to the Serial Number it belonged to Leonid Solodkov, and wasn the last one awarded in ceremony... S/N 11664
I have uploaded two photos. I'd be grateful for any insight!
Thanks!
Elizabeth

USSR · 05-10-2013, 12:06 PM

Wow, thats a rare piece Elizabeth! I don't see any problems but lets wait what the experts have to say.

Anyway, if it is original, you've got a wonderful piece!

rocketscientist · 05-10-2013, 04:17 PM

It would deserve better pictures!

marsino · 05-10-2013, 04:58 PM

Everything seems to be consistent, mint mark and serial number, but the rear surface is very strange, to be allocated to the image?

05-11-2013, 07:24 AM

HI Guys! thanks for the insight! I will try and get some better photos!
I'm really curious how he obtained it since he was in Austria investigating the steel factories and not in combat...
Elizabeth

***CtahhR*** · 05-11-2013, 12:23 PM

It must be remembered that Austria was under Allied Occupation until 1955 so there will have been opportunities for service personnel of all four sides to do a little bit of trading on the quiet.
It may be that a former Greater German (Austrian) soldier "captured" it on the eastern front and then after capitulation etc. traded it for food or other necessaries.

Members of my own family who did trading with folks on the continent brought back many different items that they would never have been viable for issue or award. Mainly uniforms or perishables but there is very little interest in period uniforms or perished goods.

05-16-2013, 01:28 PM

Hi all!
Here are some (hopefully) better photos of the badge.
Thanks!
Elizabeth

***desantnik*** · 05-16-2013, 02:34 PM

Everything looks as it should including screwback plate - it may be re-enamelled, however.

03-04-2013, 12:51 PM	#11
USSR Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Europe Posts: 95	Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star Thanks guys! I will stay away from it! Bill Garvy; apparently the order is not only for sale on E but on an other auction site as well... Could it be in two different places at the same time? :cool:

03-04-2013, 04:29 PM	#12
Bill Garvy Comrade Curmudgeon Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,642	Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star *As the only reasonable explanation, many are being manufactured utilizing that very same serial number. I too have seen them in different places and being sold by different vendors.*

05-10-2013, 12:06 PM	#14
USSR Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Europe Posts: 95	Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star Wow, thats a rare piece Elizabeth! I don't see any problems but lets wait what the experts have to say. Anyway, if it is original, you've got a wonderful piece!

05-10-2013, 04:17 PM	#15
rocketscientist Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 66	Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star It would deserve better pictures!

05-10-2013, 04:58 PM	#16
marsino Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Italy Age: 58 Posts: 389	Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star Everything seems to be consistent, mint mark and serial number, but the rear surface is very strange, to be allocated to the image? Last edited by marsino; 05-10-2013 at 05:13 PM.

05-11-2013, 07:24 AM	#17
mzgti2u Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star HI Guys! thanks for the insight! I will try and get some better photos! I'm really curious how he obtained it since he was in Austria investigating the steel factories and not in combat... Elizabeth

05-11-2013, 12:23 PM	#18
*CtahhR* Forum Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Deep In The Archives. Age: 17 Posts: 12,074	Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star It must be remembered that Austria was under Allied Occupation until 1955 so there will have been opportunities for service personnel of all four sides to do a little bit of trading on the quiet. It may be that a former Greater German (Austrian) soldier "captured" it on the eastern front and then after capitulation etc. traded it for food or other necessaries. Members of my own family who did trading with folks on the continent brought back many different items that they would never have been viable for issue or award. Mainly uniforms or perishables but there is very little interest in period uniforms or perished goods. __________________ "Signed with his own rubber stamp"

05-16-2013, 02:34 PM	#20
*desantnik* Forum Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Eurasia Posts: 2,338	Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star Everything looks as it should including screwback plate - it may be re-enamelled, however.

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