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Old 03-18-2003, 06:57 PM   #1
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Fake "Defence Of" Campaign Medal Documents.

Gentlemen,

Here's a fake temporary document for a Stalingrad medal. The document itself is genuine, but entries are fresh and made in modern hand writting.

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Old 03-20-2003, 04:59 AM   #2
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The faint, multi-digit stamped serial number is the same as that seen on many fake NKVD IDs. Also note the general NKO stamp. Any doc like this is likely to have a specific unit or city voenkom stamp not the NKO stamp.

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Old 03-20-2003, 05:07 PM   #3
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Shawn,

Good point. They could very well be from the same shop.

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Old 03-20-2003, 05:10 PM   #4
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Here are couple of those numbers from fake NKVD documents:
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Old 02-05-2004, 01:00 AM   #5
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Defense of Sevastopol Doc

Guys,

What do you think of this document - is it real or not?

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Old 02-05-2004, 11:23 AM   #6
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Off center!

Hi William,

Just my modest opinion,

The writing looks all off center to me, the small red stars are too big, the seals are usualy a lot clearer, the State Emblem looks Blurry and in all these type of award Doc,s that I have as reference either the last number or the last two numbers in the year of issue are hand writen not the last three.
It somehow all looks a bit sloppyly made, I,m by no means an expert and I can,t even read Russian but I would say that it a Fake.
It looks more like a Photo copy than an Award Doc.
All I can say is that if I was asked I wouldn,t buy it, even if it turns out to be Original.

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Old 02-05-2004, 08:44 PM   #7
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William,

I believe the document is a fake - it has a dark yellow color, like it was dipped in manganese solution; printing quality is bad; ink stamp is real sloppy; signature looks like somebody had tried it once or twice before signing this document; etc.

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Old 02-06-2004, 06:32 AM   #8
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Thanks a lot for your opinions!

Actually the doc looks a better that it looks on the modified photo. Here's enlarged photo - signture looks better and I see the problem with the stamp.

As for the yellow color - that could be easily due to the quality of the scanner.

But yoy guys are right - if there are doubts - it's better to pass on the doc.

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William,

The color is still bad - it may be distorted, but if you take the red letters as a point of reference, the background is still brownish. In my opinion the signature is not convincing.

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William,

The color is still bad - it may be distorted, but if you take the red letters as a point of reference, the background is still brownish. In my opinion the signature is not convincing.

Alexei
Alexei,

You are correct. I'll pass on this doc...

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