Red Banner. - Page 44

Christophe · 11-19-2012, 06:17 AM

Thanks Paul. :thumbsup
A true curiosity... ;)

Cheers.
Ch.

PaulR · 11-19-2012, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desantnik

I have a similar Red Star with an impossibly high eight digits. As with it, in this case I'm certain the engraver briefly had his attention distracted and accidentally doubled the "5" in the middle.

Take it out and you probably have it's "real" s/n.

But what happened to these errors? Were they tossed into a refuse bin, or were they still awarded? If they were awarded out, I am sure that the numbers on the back would have still been used?

Auke · 11-19-2012, 03:53 PM

As you can see on the record card posted above, they were just awarded, and the erroneous serial number was put on the record card and order booklet.

***desantnik*** · 11-19-2012, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulR

But what happened to these errors? Were they tossed into a refuse bin, or were they still awarded? If they were awarded out, I am sure that the numbers on the back would have still been used?

Considering conditions in wartime Stalinist Soviet Union, there may have been draconian penalties for sub-standard work. It may have been easier for all parties involved to ship it out to the front if it passed visual inspection.

PaulR · 11-20-2012, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desantnik

Considering conditions in wartime Stalinist Soviet Union, there may have been draconian penalties for sub-standard work. It may have been easier for all parties involved to ship it out to the front if it passed visual inspection.

But if the award was issued, the number present is what would have been recorded, right? So in theory, the ORB with the 2 million number(of course inscribed in error), would have been recorded in the Orders Booklet and archives? It is not like the person issuing out the awards knows order sequence, right?

***CtahhR*** · 11-20-2012, 12:49 PM

Exactly right.
If an Order says #4 a booklet will say #4 too if an Order says 4444444444 so will the booklet even if under 50,000 of the awards were ever handed out.
The numbers can be seen more as a sign of identification rather than counting the number awarded.

fpicoli · 12-30-2012, 04:04 PM

Need help on this item.
Original WW2 period variation with replacement suspender or not???
Regards

Fábio

Lapa · 12-30-2012, 04:19 PM

fpicoli,

:thumbsup

Marc

fpicoli · 12-30-2012, 05:13 PM

Its number is #179530.
From which year is it???

marsino · 12-30-2012, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fpicoli

Its number is #179530.
From which year is it???

#178254-11/1944
#178238-02/1945

11-19-2012, 06:17 AM	#431
Christophe Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Paris - Berlin Age: 61 Posts: 1,208	Re: Red Banner. Thanks Paul. :thumbsup A true curiosity... ;) Cheers. Ch.

11-19-2012, 03:53 PM	#433
Auke Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 762	Re: Red Banner. As you can see on the record card posted above, they were just awarded, and the erroneous serial number was put on the record card and order booklet.

11-20-2012, 12:49 PM	#436
*CtahhR* Forum Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Deep In The Archives. Age: 17 Posts: 12,074	Re: Red Banner. Exactly right. If an Order says #4 a booklet will say #4 too if an Order says 4444444444 so will the booklet even if under 50,000 of the awards were ever handed out. The numbers can be seen more as a sign of identification rather than counting the number awarded. __________________ "Signed with his own rubber stamp"

12-30-2012, 04:19 PM	#438
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	Re: Fake Orders of the Red Banner fpicoli, :thumbsup Marc

12-30-2012, 05:13 PM	#439
fpicoli Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 17	Re: Red Banner. Its number is #179530. From which year is it???

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