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Old 09-17-2006, 08:21 AM   #21
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Marc, Tang Si,

A lot is still to be learned about these awards thats for sure. I tend to agree that some form of precedance must exit it's finding out what it is thats proving a little difficult :) The ribbon guide has some sort of precedance, it was made by observing the orders and medals worn on uniforms. If we had some good clear photos of different ranks wearing all their Orders and Medals we could compare them and start our own precedance research.
Also one thing I find hard to belive is that commemorative awards are above military service/ merit awards it would be nice to have more infomation on these.

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Old 09-17-2006, 03:40 PM   #22
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http://www.medals.lava.pl/kp/kp1.htm

Probably known by almost all of you, but it´s always good to refresh minds.

Tang, let us know about the awarding ceremony date as soon as possible please!:)
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Old 09-17-2006, 03:50 PM   #23
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A Guard 2nd Lieutenant Service Tunic

Tang Si,
I had a BLAST working on that puzzle!!! I'm curious, too...when's the award ceremony?!!:D

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Old 09-24-2006, 12:31 AM   #24
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Another high decorated 2nd Lieutenant:
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Old 09-24-2006, 12:43 AM   #25
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ASTONISHING!!!

BTW, is it true that the NK military are allowed to wear the awards of their ancestors? (and that could explain why a 2nd Lt is that decorated...)
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could you just explain to me why a junior officer should as decorated as a general officer...
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Old 09-24-2006, 03:12 AM   #27
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Hi,

According to the resources we have, we can conclude that the man who had been awarded can transfer orders to his son who also is serving in the army after die. But there is no North Korea official document confirm it.

BTW, this tunic is just a fun. But the theory above may be true.

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According to the resources we have, we can conclude that the man who had been awarded can transfer orders to his son who also is serving in the army after die. But there is no North Korea official document confirm it.
I have already read that before, so that´s why I asked you. As well as the awards, it is said when a north korean commits a crime or does not show his/her loyalty to the regime, all of his ancestors are blamed and charged with penalties!
So we can see that the link between people and their ancestors is also used by Kim´s Co. to coerce obedience on their citizens...

Tang, can you post a close-up of the collar tabs to take a better look at the insignia and the collar pattern (if it has)?
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I have already read that before, so that´s why I asked you. As well as the awards, it is said when a north korean commits a crime or does not show his/her loyalty to the regime, all of his ancestors are blamed and charged with penalties!
So we can see that the link between people and their ancestors is also used by Kim´s Co. to coerce obedience on their citizens...

Tang, can you post a close-up of the collar tabs to take a better look at the insignia and the collar pattern (if it has)?
Hi, Esteban

Sorry I have not taken the photoes of this collar, but I have a photo of a beautiful young female 2nd lieutenant. It is the same.

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Re: Lieutenant Tunics.

It seems rather obvious to me that both of these tunics have been "made up" for a greater profit. Not only do they feature common awards in number, the awards don't really "add up" and they are placed by someone who has minimal understanding of the DPRK Order Of Precedence. It is HIGHLY unlikely that the first recipient would get three Merit Medals and a ONF1 but not an ONF2 or ONF3 (same with OFMSH) and the second recipient would have received more than one "Foundation" Commemorative Order.

Tunic One (with the upside down tabs) should be arranged;

Right Chest -
Line 1
Medal For Military Service Honour
Commemorative Medal "60th Anniversary Of The People's Army"
Line 2
Guards Badge

Left Chest -
Line 1
Order Of The National Flag 1st Class
Order For Military Service Honour 1st Class
Order Of The Banner Of The Three Great Revolutions
Line 2
Medal For Merits
Medal For Military Merits
Medal For Military Merits

Tunic Two;
Right Chest -
Line 1
Commemorative Order "Foundation Of The Democratic People's Republic Of Korea"
Commemorative Order "60th Anniversary Of The People's Army"
Commemorative Order "Capital Construction"
Line 2
Medal For Military Service Honour
Medal For Military Service Honour
Commemorative Medal "The Foundation Of The Democratic People's Republic Of Korea"
Commemorative Medal "Fatherland Liberation"

Left Chest -
Line 1
Order Of The National Flag 1st Class
Order Of The National Flag 1st Class
Order Of The National Flag 1st Class
Line 2
Order Of The National Flag 2nd Class
Order Of The National Flag 2nd Class
Order Of The National Flag 2nd Class
Line 3
Order Of The National Flag 2nd Class
Order For Military Service Honour 2nd Class
Order Of The National Flag 3rd Class
Line 4
Order Of The National Flag 3rd Class
Order Of The National Flag 3rd Class
Order For Military Service Honour 3rd Class
Order For Military Service Honour 3rd Class
Line 5
Order For Military Service Honour 3rd Class
Medal For Merits
Medal For Merits
Medal For Military Merits
Line 6
Medal For Military Merits
Medal For Military Merits
Medal For Military Merits
Medal For Military Merits
Line 7 (if it fits if not Line 3 of Right Chest)
Medal For Military Merits
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