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Old 04-29-2005, 02:47 PM   #1
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Lieutenant-General and HSU Vainrub M.G.

I never seen anything better in my collecting experience!!!!
One of our NJ dealers has it for sale.

Extremely Rare HUGE and 100% COMPLETE Documented group of
Lieutenant-General and HSU Vainrub M.G.
one of the only 6 jewish Generals - Heroes of the Soviet Union!

This immense group includes:

Gold Star of Hero of the Soviet Union #5175
Order of Lenin #34513 (came with the Star)
Order of Lenin #261036
Order of Bogdan Khmelnitsky 1st Class #297
Order of Suvorov 2nd Class #740
Order of Kutuzov 2nd Class #1166
Order of Red Banner #53491 (reissue for early screwback type)
Order of Red Banner 2nd Award #4134 (reissue for early screwback type)
Order of Red Banner 3rd Award #7916
Order of Red Banner #549120
Order of Red Star #1426 (RARE "transitional" issue without mintmark)
Order of Red Star #912237
Orders Book (where ALL and only those of the above awards are listed)
Order of Patriotic War 1st Class #475273 (1985 issue)
Orders Book for the Patriotic War 1st Class Order
12 Soviet Medals with their corresponding Certificates
Large Certificate for the title of Hero of the Soviet Union
Small Certificate for the title of Hero of the Soviet Union
Original Uniform (tunic) of L.General Vainrub
7 Original b/w photographs (most 5x7 or larger) of L.General Vainrub, alone or together with Rokossovsky, Chuikov and other world known military commanders.
2 General's ID Books (both include nice original photos)
GOLD Honorary Award packet watch with inscription - 1944.
Several original "Attestations", military record, and Citation(s) for awarding with an Order, signed by Marshal of Sov. Union Chuikov, Marshal of Armored Guards Bogdanov, etc.
Free transportation booklet.
General Vainrub's original war-time Guards Badge.
Medal with large Certificate to the Honorary Citizen of Volgograd (Stalingrad).
Voroshilov's Highest Military Academy Badge with Certificate, signed by Army General Kurasov, 1951.
30 years of Victory in WWII Ukrainian medal with large Certificate, 1975.
50 years of Liberation of Ukraine badge with Certificate, 1994.
5 Polish Medals with their corresponding Certificates
Large Polish Honorary Certificate with "built-in" shoulder board
Every item is in close to MINT condition, except for the "transitional" star, which has an old minor enamel chip on left arm.

ABSOLUTELY SUPERB AND FULLY COMPLETE documented group of a prominent military figure! Historically important and extremely rare!
Price: POR
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Old 04-29-2005, 02:56 PM   #2
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The seller states that he is "one of the only 6 jewish Generals - Heroes of the Soviet Union! "

I don't have all the books at hand now, but I almost positive that there were MANY more.


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Old 04-29-2005, 03:08 PM   #3
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6 jewish Generals - Heroes of the Soviet Union! "

Tal,

I am not sure either, however I think he is right.
He means 6 Generals, but not Heros of SU. BTW, on the same he provides list of Jewish HSU. It's much more than 6!
The possibility that there was only 6 Jewish Generals is high. It was not easy for Jewish person to become a General in former Soviet Union.

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Old 04-29-2005, 03:14 PM   #4
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305 Jewish Generals and Admirals served in the Red Army during thw period of 1941-1945, acording to the book "Jewis generals in the Soviet army in WW2" by Sverdlov.
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Old 04-29-2005, 03:24 PM   #5
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... and how many were HSU ?
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Old 04-29-2005, 05:54 PM   #6
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Hsu

According to the information I have:
2 times HSU: 1. Boris Volinov; 2. David Dragynskiy; 3. Rodion Malinovskiy; 4. Yakov Smushkevich.
HSU - 143.
Hero of Russia - 4.

Tal,
May be the author means that there were 6 Jewish Generals AND HSU at the same time?

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The question is this - are the lists refers to Jewis generals who - while generals - got HSU?
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Old 04-29-2005, 06:37 PM   #8
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Jewish Generals of GPW with HSU:

1. Izrail Solomonevich Beskin
2. Matvei Vinrob Gregorovich
3. Yefim Anatolyevich Diskin
4. David Abramovich Dragunski (Twice HSU)
5. Yakov Ilich Vernikov
6. Boris Davidovich Lev
7. Yakov Davidovich Smushkevich (Twice HSU)
8. Laventy Zacharovich Kotliar
9. Vladimir Konstantinovich Konovalov
10. Zinovy Abramovich Kontsevoy
11. Semyon Moyseyevich Kriboshain
12. Yakov Gregorovich Kraizer
13. Symon Davidovich Kremer
14. Boris Mironovich Rivkin
15. Mark Ivanovich Shwelb
16. Gregory Michailov Shtern


All the above were GENERALS during GPW. I am POSITIVE that there are more Jewish generals who were HSU, but promoted to General after the GPW.

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Hsu

Tal,

Thank you. It's great information. Very interesting list. It means that the information of the dealer is not correct.
Anyway, even there are more than 6 Jewish Genarls HSU, the awards of Lieutenant-General and HSU Vainrub M.G. are great and very rare.
I would like to know how much it might cost? (more than $500,000.00 or less)?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tal Inbar
Jewish Generals of GPW with HSU:

1. Izrail Solomonevich Beskin
2. Matvei Vinrob Gregorovich
3. Yefim Anatolyevich Diskin
4. David Abramovich Dragunski (Twice HSU)
5. Yakov Ilich Vernikov
6. Boris Davidovich Lev
7. Yakov Davidovich Smushkevich (Twice HSU)
8. Laventy Zacharovich Kotliar
9. Vladimir Konstantinovich Konovalov
10. Zinovy Abramovich Kontsevoy
11. Semyon Moyseyevich Kriboshain
12. Yakov Gregorovich Kraizer
13. Symon Davidovich Kremer
14. Boris Mironovich Rivkin
15. Mark Ivanovich Shwelb
16. Gregory Michailov Shtern


All the above were GENERALS during GPW. I am POSITIVE that there are more Jewish generals who were HSU, but promoted to General after the GPW.

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that's not exactly correct. Most of them became generals after GPW. The same time Smushkevich and Shtern became HSU before GPW and were executed in fall of 1941.
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