Naval Dembel Badges.

Al-muell · 12-01-2003, 01:40 PM

I don't even know if this one's Soviet.
The seller said it's "some kind of soviet naval badge."
Attached with screw.
Any ideas?

otlichnik · 12-09-2003, 11:28 AM

It is nothing that is official Soviet Navy issue. Very odd style. I suspect some sort of fantasy or other East European??

Shawn

Nota Bene · 12-10-2003, 06:01 PM

Shawn,

Certainly not official, but do you think it could be one of those "Dembel" badges? The design is still very Soviet...

Alexei

otlichnik · 12-11-2003, 02:42 AM

Fuzzy picture but it seems to be too nice to be a dembel badge. It looks like it is a proper stamping job. I was wondering about merchant marine - either unofficial Soviet or somewhere else.

Shawn

Nota Bene · 12-11-2003, 05:54 PM

Shawn,

You are probably right... I thought about a "Dembel" badge because of the enamel, which looks like epoxy.

Alexei

Al-muell · 12-12-2003, 03:24 AM

If this is Merchant Marine, shouldn't there be a hammer and sickle on the star?
I too was thinking about dembel, because:
1. It looks similar to the anchor on navy enlisted belt buckle.
2. The "ring" at the top of the anchor looks like damaged (or it never looked any better).
btw. there's no enamel on it - this are just two different metals - It is one piece as a background (anchor w/star) + star attached in front.

Dolf · 09-13-2005, 08:09 PM

Guys,

I'm really not sure if I should post this here or on the "eBay jokes" thread. :confused:
But we never know and my knowledge of Badges is very limited, so the fact I never saw this may not mean much...

Any opinions, please?
Has anyone ever seen such a piece?
Could it be hand made with parts from here and there?

Thanks,

Dolf

dannybou · 09-13-2005, 08:59 PM

Dolf I have never seen this badge before. Looks homemade. I'd stay away from this one mate.

***desantnik*** · 09-13-2005, 09:29 PM

It is homemade, but that doesn't make it off limits or intentionally faked. Soviet military culture allowed for a lot of "homemade" items, especially for demobilizing soldiers, unit display boards, etc.

The bottom tank is from collar insignia for armored forces. I can't identify the other pieces and the "25 years" is obviously hand engraved.

No, the badge is not official, but it does have its hand-made charm. If you're not paying a lot for it, it is a good example of soldier art.

Dolf · 09-14-2005, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desantnik

No, the badge is not official, but it does have its hand-made charm. If you're not paying a lot for it, it is a good example of soldier art.

Paul,

How much you'd consider "...not a lot", in this case ?

Thanks,

Dolf

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12-09-2003, 11:28 AM	#2
otlichnik Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Age: 56 Posts: 547	It is nothing that is official Soviet Navy issue. Very odd style. I suspect some sort of fantasy or other East European?? Shawn

12-10-2003, 06:01 PM	#3
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Shawn, Certainly not official, but do you think it could be one of those "Dembel" badges? The design is still very Soviet... Alexei

12-11-2003, 02:42 AM	#4
otlichnik Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Age: 56 Posts: 547	Fuzzy picture but it seems to be too nice to be a dembel badge. It looks like it is a proper stamping job. I was wondering about merchant marine - either unofficial Soviet or somewhere else. Shawn

12-11-2003, 05:54 PM	#5
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Shawn, You are probably right... I thought about a "Dembel" badge because of the enamel, which looks like epoxy. Alexei

12-12-2003, 03:24 AM	#6
Al-muell Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Wrocław, Poland Posts: 1,828	If this is Merchant Marine, shouldn't there be a hammer and sickle on the star? I too was thinking about dembel, because: 1. It looks similar to the anchor on navy enlisted belt buckle. 2. The "ring" at the top of the anchor looks like damaged (or it never looked any better). btw. there's no enamel on it - this are just two different metals - It is one piece as a background (anchor w/star) + star attached in front.

09-13-2005, 08:59 PM	#8
dannybou Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Québec, Canada Posts: 284	Dolf I have never seen this badge before. Looks homemade. I'd stay away from this one mate.

09-13-2005, 09:29 PM	#9
*desantnik* Forum Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Eurasia Posts: 2,330	It is homemade, but that doesn't make it off limits or intentionally faked. Soviet military culture allowed for a lot of "homemade" items, especially for demobilizing soldiers, unit display boards, etc. The bottom tank is from collar insignia for armored forces. I can't identify the other pieces and the "25 years" is obviously hand engraved. No, the badge is not official, but it does have its hand-made charm. If you're not paying a lot for it, it is a good example of soldier art.

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