Ministry Of Defence Personal Files.

Tal Inbar · 01-06-2003, 01:27 PM

Are you keeping your personal file in this kind of folder?;)

Laurent · 10-24-2005, 02:33 AM

I bought a few years ago, a partial set of original documents (21) belonging to General-Major Leonid Ivanovitch Gredinarenko, from an Ukrainian guy here in Switzerland. He told me that this was only paper, and he wanted to sell it at any cost. I decided to take it, and forgot about it since then, because at that time, I couldn’t read Russian at all… :D
For a week, I “found” again this set, and wanted to look at it more closely.

His biography is covered on the 3 first pages, and after, the other documents are about his military career (of course…).

He earned an Order of Kutuzov 2nd class, an Order of Lenin, 3 Orders of the Red Banner, an order of the Patriotic war 1st class, medals, and foreign awards.

Alfred · 10-24-2005, 03:43 AM

Laurent,

the first sheet has the title "awtobiografia". Seems to be a biography.

regards
Andreas

Laurent · 10-24-2005, 03:49 AM

Andreas,

Yes, the first 3 pages are a biography signed by another Captain... because at that time (1938), Gredinarenko was only Captain.

Regards

HuliganRS · 10-24-2005, 07:03 AM

Does the paperwork say what the S/N is for the Kutuzov 2?

Rusty.

HuliganRS · 10-27-2005, 07:16 AM

In the old days one could have bought the original file. I've seen a few full files for sale a few times.

Now days you can only get the xeroxed copies of what you request.

Rusty.

EricFG · 03-05-2011, 05:57 PM

I've seen these recently via the web and I wonder what exactly they are?

My guess is a soldiers personel file from his local district post?

It seems pretty official, not to mention complete. The seller claims 29 pages.
I can post more images if anyone is interested.
But I wonder, this seems to be pretty 'official'; why's it for sale to decadent Capitolists and not in a military archive of some sort?

Additionally, is this sort of file what researches use to provide their services?

Lapa · 03-05-2011, 06:12 PM

Eric,

Nothing new here, these have been around for many years. They all come from Ukraine; apparently, they did not care safegarding these after 1991. Fortunately, the central archive in Podolsk has a duplicate of all of these.

Marc

EricFG · 03-05-2011, 06:42 PM

So it's a soldier's complete, total and official file of his whole military service?

Lapa · 03-05-2011, 06:53 PM

Yep, and even more...

Marc

10-24-2005, 03:49 AM	#4
Laurent Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Switzerland Posts: 366	Andreas, Yes, the first 3 pages are a biography signed by another Captain... because at that time (1938), Gredinarenko was only Captain. Regards Last edited by Laurent; 10-25-2005 at 03:26 AM.

10-24-2005, 07:03 AM	#5
HuliganRS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Illinois - U.S.A. Age: 46 Posts: 1,023	Does the paperwork say what the S/N is for the Kutuzov 2? Rusty. __________________ "Be civil to all, sociable to many, familiar with few, friend to one, enemy to none." Benjamin Franklin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Member #193

10-27-2005, 07:16 AM	#6
HuliganRS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Illinois - U.S.A. Age: 46 Posts: 1,023	In the old days one could have bought the original file. I've seen a few full files for sale a few times. Now days you can only get the xeroxed copies of what you request. Rusty. __________________ "Be civil to all, sociable to many, familiar with few, friend to one, enemy to none." Benjamin Franklin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Member #193

03-05-2011, 06:12 PM	#8
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	Re: Private File? Eric, Nothing new here, these have been around for many years. They all come from Ukraine; apparently, they did not care safegarding these after 1991. Fortunately, the central archive in Podolsk has a duplicate of all of these. Marc

03-05-2011, 06:42 PM	#9
EricFG Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Naples, Florida, USA Age: 59 Posts: 1,496	Re: Private File? So it's a soldier's complete, total and official file of his whole military service? __________________ "patina imparts character" - PJS A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.'

10-24-2005, 03:43 AM	#3
Alfred Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germany, Cologne Posts: 626	Laurent, the first sheet has the title "awtobiografia". Seems to be a biography. regards Andreas

03-05-2011, 06:53 PM	#10
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	Re: Private File? Yep, and even more... Marc

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