"Stalin's Limousine"

Tal Inbar · 05-08-2003, 04:30 PM

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Esteban_cool · 05-10-2003, 08:48 PM

Tal:
In which place, precisely, is Marshal Zhukov?

charlet · 05-11-2003, 06:21 AM

directly next left to the limousine, the guy with boots and the chest shinning under the sun...his wall of medals!!!

Tal Inbar · 06-26-2003, 05:29 AM

Start price of just $60,000...(no bidders)

"YOU ARE BIDDING ON A 1946 ZIS STALIN LIMOUSINE CABRIOLET.THIS CAR WAS BELIEVED TO BE OWNED AND USED BY JOSEPH STALIN AFTER WORLD WAR II. THE CHASSIS NUMBER IS 2079. I INFORMED THE RUSSIAN AUTOMOTIVE MUSEUM IN MOSCOW AND THEY HAVE INTEREST BUT NO MONEY.IT WAS PURCHASED BY A WEALTHY JAPANESE BUSINESSMAN IN THE EARLY 1990'S FOR ABOUT $1.3 MILLION U.S. THEN SENT TO HAMBURG GERMANY FOR COMPLETE RESTORATION BY CIS TEAM. THE CAR STAYED ON DISPLAY AT THE BLACKHAWK MUSEUM IN DANVILLE CALIFORNIA FOR ABOUT 8 YEARS.IT IS NOW OFFERED FOR SALE. IT RUNS AND DRIVES WELL. THERE IS A VIDEO THAT SHOWS JOSEPH STALIN, ROOSEVELT AND CHURCHILL RIDING TOGETHER IN RED SQUARE AT A VICTORY PARADE.THERE ARE OTHER PICTURES AND INFORMATION DEMONSTRATING THIS AS WELL. THIS CABRIOLET FOUR DOOR AND A SEDAN FOUR DOOR WERE HIS PERSONAL LIMOUSINES."

A very Spartan Limo....(no radio telephone?!)

"THERE IS A VIDEO THAT SHOWS JOSEPH STALIN, ROOSEVELT AND CHURCHILL RIDING TOGETHER IN RED SQUARE AT A VICTORY PARADE"

Dave · 06-26-2003, 05:52 AM

I talked to a guy back in 1992 who was supposedly 'bringing out Stalin's Limousine'. It looks like he probably did!

In the big scheme of things, $60K isn't bad... If I had it, I'd put a bid on it.

--Dave

new world · 06-26-2003, 07:57 AM

Dave,

In fact $60K would be great price for Stalin's car!

I have another story to tell. About a month ago I watched a special on Russian TV about the guy who collects old cars. He had some great cars in his collection.

The jewel certainly was a "Horsh" (not sure about spelling) car that once belonged to German Goering - #2-3 Nazi. After the war that car was taken by Marshal Rokossovsky and he brought it back to Russia. Few years later Rokossovsky gave the car to his driver.

The collectror came accross the car in some used car shop in the 1950's - it was in terrible shape, so it took him almost 10 years to restore the car.

I can't imagine how much a car like that could be sold for today!

In fact - the collector had Audi (they acquired the original manufacturer) people come to his place, as they wanted the car for the museum, and they made him really nice offer.

Well, the collector refused the offer for the reason that the car is part of Russian history, a symbol of our victory in Patriotic War.

William

vova · 06-26-2003, 11:42 AM

Japanese businessman originally paid USD 1.3 mio for the car, now the car is offered at USD 60K, not a very good investement for our japanese friend.

kabanchik · 06-26-2003, 11:50 AM

Hmmmmm.......$60,000.00 for a new Mercedes Benz sedan, or $60,000.00 for Marshal Stalin's ZIL........ What a no-brainer!!! I'm surprised one of Moscow's mafia noveau riche isn't tooling up and down Leninskiy Prospekt in it at this very moment.
But, really, what a dream car!!! Just as a CAR, notwithstanding its sinister history.

Bazanov · 06-26-2003, 11:56 AM

I would have bought it if i had the money...
Is it real or is it a "fake"?

HuliganRS · 06-26-2003, 12:08 PM

Just as the car w/out the attached history this is a rare automobile! I don't think there are too many factory limo conversions...

Rusty.

05-11-2003, 06:21 AM	#3
charlet Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Germany Age: 49 Posts: 791	directly next left to the limousine, the guy with boots and the chest shinning under the sun...his wall of medals!!! __________________ Sebastien "a spectre haunts Europe, the spectre of communism" (a well-known german bearbed)

06-26-2003, 11:56 AM	#9
Bazanov Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Age: 37 Posts: 84	I would have bought it if i had the money... Is it real or is it a "fake"? __________________ /Fredrik

06-26-2003, 12:08 PM	#10
HuliganRS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Illinois - U.S.A. Age: 46 Posts: 1,023	Just as the car w/out the attached history this is a rare automobile! I don't think there are too many factory limo conversions... Rusty. __________________ "Be civil to all, sociable to many, familiar with few, friend to one, enemy to none." Benjamin Franklin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Member #193

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05-10-2003, 08:48 PM	#2
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Dave Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: California Age: 49 Posts: 700	I talked to a guy back in 1992 who was supposedly 'bringing out Stalin's Limousine'. It looks like he probably did! In the big scheme of things, $60K isn't bad... If I had it, I'd put a bid on it. --Dave

06-26-2003, 07:57 AM	#6
new world Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: NYC, USA Posts: 1,086	Dave, In fact $60K would be great price for Stalin's car! I have another story to tell. About a month ago I watched a special on Russian TV about the guy who collects old cars. He had some great cars in his collection. The jewel certainly was a "Horsh" (not sure about spelling) car that once belonged to German Goering - #2-3 Nazi. After the war that car was taken by Marshal Rokossovsky and he brought it back to Russia. Few years later Rokossovsky gave the car to his driver. The collectror came accross the car in some used car shop in the 1950's - it was in terrible shape, so it took him almost 10 years to restore the car. I can't imagine how much a car like that could be sold for today! In fact - the collector had Audi (they acquired the original manufacturer) people come to his place, as they wanted the car for the museum, and they made him really nice offer. Well, the collector refused the offer for the reason that the car is part of Russian history, a symbol of our victory in Patriotic War. William

06-26-2003, 11:42 AM	#7
vova New Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ukraine Posts: 4	Japanese businessman originally paid USD 1.3 mio for the car, now the car is offered at USD 60K, not a very good investement for our japanese friend.

06-26-2003, 11:50 AM	#8
kabanchik Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Huntington Beach, CA USA Age: 71 Posts: 80	Hmmmmm.......$60,000.00 for a new Mercedes Benz sedan, or $60,000.00 for Marshal Stalin's ZIL........ What a no-brainer!!! I'm surprised one of Moscow's mafia noveau riche isn't tooling up and down Leninskiy Prospekt in it at this very moment. But, really, what a dream car!!! Just as a CAR, notwithstanding its sinister history.

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