Patriotic War.

[Riley1965]

Award Book for OPW 1st Class 1985 Jubilee award S/N: 1262112.
Even with the ink smear from water can somone give a guess as to the name of the recipient?

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[Koopyetz]

Doc:

I believe the name of to recipient for the OPW 1st class 1985 Jubilee award s/n 1262112 is Mihail Varpenovich Kevhiev

[marc-]

Next question.
What is the difference between the Trench, 1st run, without mintmark, and the Trench, 2nd run, without mintmark. Is hit only the S/N ?
Marc

[Eryk]

Originally Posted by marc-

Next question.
What is the difference between the Trench, 1st run, without mintmark, and the Trench, 2nd run, without mintmark. Is hit only the S/N ?
Marc

On the screwback site they actually identify three separate types (all without mint mark):

V2.1: Moscow Mint, s/n 74391-76500
V2.2: Leningrad Mint, s/n 110913-130324
V2.3: Moscow Mint, s/n 170055-180451

Indeed, there's no descriptive difference given except for s/n range.

The MONDVOR site identifies three types as well:

MMD V2.1 (Moscow), s/n 74681 - 76500
LMD V2 (Leningrad), s/n 110448 - 308963 (!)
MMD V2.2 (Moscow), s/n 170052 - 180451

MONDVOR mentions that there is a difference in size and 'style' of serial number engraving between the MMD and LMD production. There is also supposedly a 1mm difference in some of the trench dimensions, but that appears anecdotal, without a large number of samples to determine if it's consistent. There's also a huge difference in the high end of the s/n range for LMD; the example they show is 1950s or 60s production, with a trench and mint mark. That doesn't really contradict the other site IMO; all the wartime production shown appears consistent - trench, range, no mint mark. IMO the later should be a different 'type,' or better just an acknowledged anomaly until more than a few are identified.

[marc-]

Thanks for the explanation Eryk, can you place these order from this photograph?

[warsaw45]

Purchased in Malta on Sunday. Can anyone give me any more info on this Order Of The Patriotic War? Eg: Class, Year Awarded, Fake or Not?

[Tretov]

It is a 1st class Type 3, issued in 1985 to surviving veterans. Original and authentic.

[Alfred]

Hi Tony,

there are three mints and only a few factories that produced orders and medals in the CCCP.

LMD - Leningrad Mint
MMD - Moscow Mint
KMD - Krasnodar Mint (during the War)

best regards
Andreas

[Auke]

Originally Posted by Alfred

Hi Tony,

there are three mints and only a few factories that produced orders and medals in the CCCP.

LMD - Leningrad Mint
MMD - Moscow Mint
KMD - Krasnodar Mint (during the War)

best regards
Andreas

Just a minor correction; KMD stands for Krasnokamsk Mint.

[Riley1965]

I have been troubled by this for some time now. I have a 1985 issue OPW1 with an OPW2 award book.:confused: Can anyone shed some light on this?

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