Identification on a black cap

Bazanov · 07-31-2003, 01:28 PM

Hello

I bought this but i dont know what it is...
I understand that the redstar pin is uppsida down.

Bazanov · 07-31-2003, 01:29 PM

and the label:

vikingraider1 · 07-31-2003, 02:59 PM

That if I am not mistaken is a VOHR cap badge on a cap that I have not come across. The maker's badge is certainly Soviet but the colouring for VOHR services should be blue grey, with reed green piping. Normally officers wore a circular cockade on the front of the cap so I am assuming that this is for an NCO or conscript.
When I first started collecting, I bought a M1969 armoured or artillery parade cap and stuck on the crown was one of them badges. It bugged me for a long time as to which service this badge belonged to and eventually a freind told me is was for VOHR.

otlichnik · 08-01-2003, 02:05 AM

Vikingraider is correct that it is a VOKhR badge. However, the hat (black with the blue piping) appears to be for miners, mining technicians and mine railways personnel.

So either a case of the wrong badge or perhaps this is what security guards at mine sites wore.

Shawn

Bazanov · 08-01-2003, 02:46 AM

its stamped 1968 and i have not seen in before.
Do anyone have a cap like this one?

Bazanov · 08-01-2003, 02:46 AM

its stamped 1968 and i have not seen in before.
Do anyone have a cap like this one?

Sorry i came as a bouble post.

But do anyone have a site where you can find miners caps?

Bone Collector · 08-02-2003, 07:37 PM

Isn't the cap badge from Yugoslavia?

otlichnik · 08-05-2003, 03:33 AM

No. It is slightly similar though. Yugoslav badges are either plain stars or stars with a sort of techno-wreathing not crossed rifle like this. The Yugo cap badges are also quite thick and not stamped brass like this one.

Shawn

charlet · 08-05-2003, 06:29 AM

I think understand what Bone means: the badge furiously looks like the yougoslav order of partisan star 3rd class...

vikingraider1 · 08-05-2003, 04:43 PM

Charlet,
actually, Yugoslavian cap badges as Olitchinik said are enamelled red stars made from brass which look quite similar (only larger) than the VOHR badges and without the crossed rifles. :)

07-31-2003, 02:59 PM	#3
vikingraider1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: London, Home of West Ham United Age: 54 Posts: 328	That if I am not mistaken is a VOHR cap badge on a cap that I have not come across. The maker's badge is certainly Soviet but the colouring for VOHR services should be blue grey, with reed green piping. Normally officers wore a circular cockade on the front of the cap so I am assuming that this is for an NCO or conscript. When I first started collecting, I bought a M1969 armoured or artillery parade cap and stuck on the crown was one of them badges. It bugged me for a long time as to which service this badge belonged to and eventually a freind told me is was for VOHR. __________________ "We can truly say that the whole circuit of the earth is girdled with the graves of our dead... and, in the course of my pilgrimage, I have many times asked myself whether there can be more potent advocates of peace upon earth through the years to come, than this massed multitude of silent witnesses to the desolation of war." King George V, Flanders, 1922

08-01-2003, 02:46 AM	#5
Bazanov Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Age: 37 Posts: 84	its stamped 1968 and i have not seen in before. Do anyone have a cap like this one? __________________ /Fredrik

08-01-2003, 02:46 AM	#6
Bazanov Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Age: 37 Posts: 84	its stamped 1968 and i have not seen in before. Do anyone have a cap like this one? Sorry i came as a bouble post. But do anyone have a site where you can find miners caps? __________________ /Fredrik Last edited by Bazanov; 08-01-2003 at 02:48 AM.

08-05-2003, 06:29 AM	#9
charlet Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Germany Age: 49 Posts: 791	I think understand what Bone means: the badge furiously looks like the yougoslav order of partisan star 3rd class... __________________ Sebastien "a spectre haunts Europe, the spectre of communism" (a well-known german bearbed)

08-05-2003, 04:43 PM	#10
vikingraider1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: London, Home of West Ham United Age: 54 Posts: 328	Charlet, actually, Yugoslavian cap badges as Olitchinik said are enamelled red stars made from brass which look quite similar (only larger) than the VOHR badges and without the crossed rifles. :) __________________ "We can truly say that the whole circuit of the earth is girdled with the graves of our dead... and, in the course of my pilgrimage, I have many times asked myself whether there can be more potent advocates of peace upon earth through the years to come, than this massed multitude of silent witnesses to the desolation of war." King George V, Flanders, 1922

08-01-2003, 02:05 AM	#4
otlichnik Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Age: 56 Posts: 547	Vikingraider is correct that it is a VOKhR badge. However, the hat (black with the blue piping) appears to be for miners, mining technicians and mine railways personnel. So either a case of the wrong badge or perhaps this is what security guards at mine sites wore. Shawn

08-02-2003, 07:37 PM	#7
Bone Collector Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Age: 38 Posts: 30	Isn't the cap badge from Yugoslavia?

08-05-2003, 03:33 AM	#8
otlichnik Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Age: 56 Posts: 547	No. It is slightly similar though. Yugoslav badges are either plain stars or stars with a sort of techno-wreathing not crossed rifle like this. The Yugo cap badges are also quite thick and not stamped brass like this one. Shawn

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