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Old 11-03-2012, 01:42 PM   #1
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Fake Medal Bars.

How does this medal bar look, gentlemen? Put-together, or authentic? Thanks for your help!
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Old 11-03-2012, 02:25 PM   #2
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Re: Medal bar

the Lenin doesn't fit... NEVER saw a Lenin's birth in a medal bar!
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Old 11-03-2012, 04:11 PM   #3
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Re: Medal bar

It's "period correct" but the creases on the ribbons inform me that the ribbons were removed from pentagonal suspensions and put on this suspension. Sometimes the owners did it themselves, but if go to Voentorg to buy an aluminum suspension, why not buy new ribbons themselves? I'm less concerned about the Lenin though, it was against regulations to put it on a ribbon bar but not uncommon to do so.
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Old 11-03-2012, 04:18 PM   #4
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Re: Medal bar

Plausible enough (I guess), non-regulation, but without documents you'll never know.
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Old 11-03-2012, 04:30 PM   #5
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Re: Medal bar

It's a plausible combination of awards, the wear of the ribbons is consistent, it's plausible that the creases in the ribbons are due to the switch from single suspension to multi-slot bar, and the Lenin centenary medal was quite often put on a five-sided suspension or medal bar. It's all plausible, but just an opinion. :thumbsup
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Old 11-03-2012, 05:33 PM   #6
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Re: Medal bar

about the lenin commemorative, I'm still waiting for photographic eveidences if it is so uncommon... My guess: at best, this bar is a gathering of an incomplete or spli group of medals.
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Old 11-03-2012, 08:09 PM   #7
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Re: Medal bar

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It's "period correct" but the creases on the ribbons inform me that the ribbons were removed from pentagonal suspensions and put on this suspension. Sometimes the owners did it themselves, but if go to Voentorg to buy an aluminum suspension, why not buy new ribbons themselves? I'm less concerned about the Lenin though, it was against regulations to put it on a ribbon bar but not uncommon to do so.
Also note the ends of the ribbons on the reverse; some are frayed and some seem newly snipped.
IMO doubtful a vet did that. More likely a recent job and worth very little more than just the sum of the parts.
Still, she ain't half bad looking. :D
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Re: Medal bar

We are not playing the plausibility game again are we?

Someone will want paying.
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Old 11-04-2012, 01:24 AM   #9
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Re: Medal bar

Sadely, most of these medal bars are put together. I know two person on ebay wich buy seperate medals and change them to a medal bar and sell the bar with profit.

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Old 11-03-2012, 05:52 PM   #10
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Re: Medal bar

Bad quality but here's two.

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