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Fake "Defence Of" Campaign Medal Documents.
Gentlemen,
Here's a fake temporary document for a Stalingrad medal. The document itself is genuine, but entries are fresh and made in modern hand writting. Alexei |
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The faint, multi-digit stamped serial number is the same as that seen on many fake NKVD IDs. Also note the general NKO stamp. Any doc like this is likely to have a specific unit or city voenkom stamp not the NKO stamp.
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Shawn,
Good point. They could very well be from the same shop. Alexei |
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Here are couple of those numbers from fake NKVD documents:
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Defense of Sevastopol Doc
Guys,
What do you think of this document - is it real or not? William |
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Off center!
Hi William,
Just my modest opinion, The writing looks all off center to me, the small red stars are too big, the seals are usualy a lot clearer, the State Emblem looks Blurry and in all these type of award Doc,s that I have as reference either the last number or the last two numbers in the year of issue are hand writen not the last three. It somehow all looks a bit sloppyly made, I,m by no means an expert and I can,t even read Russian but I would say that it a Fake. It looks more like a Photo copy than an Award Doc. All I can say is that if I was asked I wouldn,t buy it, even if it turns out to be Original. Eddie
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William,
I believe the document is a fake - it has a dark yellow color, like it was dipped in manganese solution; printing quality is bad; ink stamp is real sloppy; signature looks like somebody had tried it once or twice before signing this document; etc. Alexei |
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Thanks a lot for your opinions!
Actually the doc looks a better that it looks on the modified photo. Here's enlarged photo - signture looks better and I see the problem with the stamp. As for the yellow color - that could be easily due to the quality of the scanner. But yoy guys are right - if there are doubts - it's better to pass on the doc. William |
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William,
The color is still bad - it may be distorted, but if you take the red letters as a point of reference, the background is still brownish. In my opinion the signature is not convincing. Alexei |
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You are correct. I'll pass on this doc... Thank you! |
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