Red Star,0346822,Lineman,653rd Separate Line Communications Battalion - Page 2

Al-muell · 03-11-2013, 04:10 PM

The order looks like ground-dug. Almost certainly a tragic story behind that...
The optimistic version would be that he lost it somewhere in a battle, but that is not very probable.

Tommy · 03-14-2013, 05:06 PM

The "site" is back running again and i found this gentleman there, sadly there is only the document which i currently have which helps us not.

I checked the Memorial site again and there is an Ivan Vorochenko listed, hailing from the same place as Andrei, but with a date of birth 2 years before.

He went missing in November 1943.

Perhaps a brother?

Perhaps a case of mistaken identity.

Who knows...

There's no record of an Ivan Vorocheno on Podvig.

***CtahhR*** · 03-14-2013, 05:33 PM

He doesn't have his Medal's citation on "the site" which is somewhat surprising but he also doesn't have a OPW '85 listed but that isn't surprising.
There is a Medal citation to a Воронченко, Андрей Герасимович (which is not outside the margin of bureaucratic error) but that is a different chap all together.

Given the fatality rate of Ukrainians (often due to the fact that they were sent in at the deep end as well as geographic location) and the fact that his home town of Nizhyn isn't a giant metropolis it is highly likely that Ivan is his brother.

Tommy · 03-14-2013, 05:49 PM

I'm pretty sure it is on Podvig?

vorochenko podvig.jpg

Ah well, i think this will remain a mystery for the foreseeable future.

Shame!

Tom

***CtahhR*** · 03-14-2013, 06:12 PM

That is not a citation for a Medal "For Combat Merits". A 1942 award mentioned on his citation for the Order "Red Star".

Tommy · 03-14-2013, 06:21 PM

Ah, sorry, cross purposes! His CSM citation is indeed not present unfortunately.

03-11-2013, 04:10 PM	#11
Al-muell Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Wrocław, Poland Posts: 1,828	Re: Red Star,0346822,Signalman The order looks like ground-dug. Almost certainly a tragic story behind that... The optimistic version would be that he lost it somewhere in a battle, but that is not very probable.

03-14-2013, 05:06 PM	#12
Tommy Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Beside the Shankly Gates Age: 36 Posts: 826	Re: Red Star,0346822,Signalman The "site" is back running again and i found this gentleman there, sadly there is only the document which i currently have which helps us not. I checked the Memorial site again and there is an Ivan Vorochenko listed, hailing from the same place as Andrei, but with a date of birth 2 years before. He went missing in November 1943. Perhaps a brother? Perhaps a case of mistaken identity. Who knows... There's no record of an Ivan Vorocheno on Podvig.

03-14-2013, 05:33 PM	#13
*CtahhR* Forum Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Deep In The Archives. Age: 17 Posts: 12,074	Re: Red Star,0346822,Signalman He doesn't have his Medal's citation on "the site" which is somewhat surprising but he also doesn't have a OPW '85 listed but that isn't surprising. There is a Medal citation to a Воронченко, Андрей Герасимович (which is not outside the margin of bureaucratic error) but that is a different chap all together. Given the fatality rate of Ukrainians (often due to the fact that they were sent in at the deep end as well as geographic location) and the fact that his home town of Nizhyn isn't a giant metropolis it is highly likely that Ivan is his brother. __________________ "Signed with his own rubber stamp"

03-14-2013, 05:49 PM	#14
Tommy Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Beside the Shankly Gates Age: 36 Posts: 826	Re: Red Star,0346822,Signalman I'm pretty sure it is on Podvig? vorochenko podvig.jpg Ah well, i think this will remain a mystery for the foreseeable future. Shame! Tom

03-14-2013, 06:12 PM	#15
*CtahhR* Forum Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Deep In The Archives. Age: 17 Posts: 12,074	Re: Red Star,0346822,Signalman That is not a citation for a Medal "For Combat Merits". A 1942 award mentioned on his citation for the Order "Red Star". __________________ "Signed with his own rubber stamp"

03-14-2013, 06:21 PM	#16
Tommy Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Beside the Shankly Gates Age: 36 Posts: 826	Re: Red Star,0346822,Signalman Ah, sorry, cross purposes! His CSM citation is indeed not present unfortunately.

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