Fake Badges "Excellent Workers' And Peasants' Red Army".

[Alfred]

In my oppinion the badge in post 2 is good.

There are 4 different badges of this type.
1. - reverse flatback with number (see post 1 and 2)
2. - reverse flatback without number
3. - counter-relief reverse with number
4. - counter-relief reverse without number

In total around ~ 149.000 pieces were made by Leningrad mint.

Paul, are you sure that these badges were not numbered by the mint?
Are they numbered by the military units who gave them out?

As the writing style of these badges is always the same I think they were numbered by mint personel.

best regards
Andreas

[Lapa]

Guys,

Although not my cup of tea, I tend to like both of these badges. The early versions were indeed numbered in the style shown.

There is (used to be?) a site dedicated to all the variations of this badge (in Russian), but I can't find it at this time (Andreas, there are many more variations than the 4 you mention...). I'll post the link when I find it.

Marc

[desantnik]

Originally Posted by Alfred

In my oppinion the badge in post 2 is good.

There are 4 different badges of this type.
1. - reverse flatback with number (see post 1 and 2)
2. - reverse flatback without number
3. - counter-relief reverse with number
4. - counter-relief reverse without number

In total around ~ 149.000 pieces were made by Leningrad mint.

Paul, are you sure that these badges were not numbered by the mint?
Are they numbered by the military units who gave them out?

As the writing style of these badges is always the same I think they were numbered by mint personel.

Gentlemen, I don't think anyone can speak conclusively about what happened in the mint 70 years ago since we weren't mint employees.

I do not see the two number styles in #1 and #2 as the "same" - badges, yes, numbering no.

Since there are unnumbered badges, a reverse (counter-relief) that did not readily permit numbering, and a comparitively small issue of pieces (140K) I've drawn the conclusion, that the numbering, even if "offiically" done, was not done at the mint.

[Alfred]

Originally Posted by Lapa

Guys,

Although not my cup of tea, I tend to like both of these badges. The early versions were indeed numbered in the style shown.

There is (used to be?) a site dedicated to all the variations of this badge (in Russian), but I can't find it at this time (Andreas, there are many more variations than the 4 you mention...). I'll post the link when I find it.

Marc

Marc,

do you mean this webside: ww.znakisssr.h15.ru (Sniper_RKKA collection)
It is deleted for a longer time.

He mentioned 5 different variations. 2 different counter-relief reverse without number.

best regards
Andreas

[Kiev41]

Hi,
In each type of badge, there are different variations.
The numbering of the badge No. 20031 seems consistent. For the second badge, No. 25043, should have a photo of the face.
I noticed that over the years is that we meet more and more Excellent RKKA Serviceman badge with a number .....
When looking at the documents for awarding this badge, it is not said that the number of degree, is the badge number.
Regards.
Philippe

[Erik B.]

Hello!
How about this Excellent RKKA badge?
Got it in the mail today. The screw nut is not original but hopefully the badge is...
Any opinions?

Thanks!
Erik

[Bill Garvy]

Welcome, Erik!

Although not my area of collective experience, in my opinion the badge appears "cast", and therefore, quite possibly, a reproduction.

[desantnik]

It does not appear to be struck or resemble others I have examined.