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Old 01-21-2013, 12:46 AM   #61
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Re: Official Chernobyl Awards Research Project

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That is possible, but without any more info, it is simply supputation.

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Very much aware and agreed, Marc, hence "they say." I couldn't find the indicated ukaz to back it up.
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Old 01-21-2013, 01:02 AM   #62
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Re: Official Chernobyl Awards Research Project

Here is another lot
The seller says 100% Chernobyl
I cannot find anything to verify it
Attaching to the lot simple Chernobyl badge does not mean that the medal is for Chernobyl.
However, it is possible.
Firefighters have been awarded with this medal for Chernobyl
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Old 01-21-2013, 02:23 PM   #63
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Re: Official Chernobyl Awards Research Project

Eric,

As far as I know, there was a Chernobyl ukaz on 24 December 1986, but not on 30th.

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Old 01-21-2013, 02:47 PM   #64
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Re: Official Chernobyl Awards Research Project

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As far as I know, there was a Chernobyl ukaz on 24 December 1986, but not on 30th.

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And I'd be equally skeptical of the later-issue Ukrainian doc. I'm sure they are much easier to come across and fill out with any information you please.
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Old 01-21-2013, 09:59 PM   #65
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As far as I know, there was a Chernobyl ukaz on 24 December 1986, but not on 30th.

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Marc,

Isn't the medal issued by a decree of the Supreme Soviet of Ukraine?

If that's correct, isn't it possible that on the 30th the Supreme Soviet of Ukraine issued a decree awarding firefighting medals for Chernobyl?

...Not that we could prove it.
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Old 01-22-2013, 03:49 AM   #66
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Marc,

Isn't the medal issued by a decree of the Supreme Soviet of Ukraine?

If that's correct, isn't it possible that on the 30th the Supreme Soviet of Ukraine issued a decree awarding firefighting medals for Chernobyl?

...Not that we could prove it.
Alex,

I don't believe that, at that time, individual republics had the power of awarding all-union awards. As far as I know, this was the prerogative of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR.

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Old 01-22-2013, 04:06 AM   #67
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Alex,

I don't believe that, at that time, individual republics had the power of awarding all-union awards. As far as I know, this was the prerogative of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR.

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Marc,

Here's the statute as given by Kolesnikov. Am I interpreting it correctly?

"МЕДАЛЬ «ЗА ОТВАГУ НА ПОЖАРЕ»
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2. Награждение медалью «За отвагу на пожаре» производится от имени Президиума Верховного Совета СССР Президиумами Верховных Советов союзных республик.
3. Вручение медали «За отвагу на пожаре» производится от имени Президиума Верховного Совета СССР председателями, заместителями председателей и членами Президиумов Верховных Советов союзных и автономных республик, председателями, заместителями председателей и членами исполнительных комитетов краевых, областных, районных и городских Советов депутатов трудящихся по месту жительства награжденных, а военнослужащим — военным командованием."

Also, from Mondvor, medal document Type 2 V2.
Медаль "ЗА ОТВАГУ НА ПОЖАРЕ"

I remember looking at the Vedomosti of the RSFSR once and seeing decrees issuing the medal. No examples immediately on hand, though I can show some next week. Unfortunately, I don't have access to the vedomosti of other republics.

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Alex,

You are, of course, right. For whatever reason, I was focused on orders and "forgot" about medals... :o

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Re: Official Chernobyl Awards Research Project

"Veteran Of Labour" is probably the best example of localised award - Depending on booklet type. Somehow I doubt that any of these were awarded for liquidation.
That being said enough time has now passed for long service awards to be granted to state workers of post-Soviet states who may have spent their entire service liquidating or analysing the effects.
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Isn't the medal issued by a decree of the Supreme Soviet of Ukraine?

If that's correct, isn't it possible that on the 30th the Supreme Soviet of Ukraine issued a decree awarding firefighting medals for Chernobyl?

...Not that we could prove it.
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