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Old 05-27-2011, 12:42 PM   #671
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The name of the MajGen of Artillery is Pyotr Mikhailovich Rozhanovich, not Romanovich. His division was the 3rd Guards Breakthrough Artillery Division (renamed on 7 March 1943 from 8th Breakthrough Artillery Division). The commander of the 5th Breakthrough Artillery Corps is MajGen of Artillery Mikhail Petrovich Kuteinikov.

According to your citation 3GBAD was subordinated to 5BAC, but according to some other orders of battle it was subordinated to the 33rd Army of the Western Front and transferred to the 5th Army of the Western Front somewhere in March 1944 (while 5BAC was directly subordinated to the Western Front).
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Old 05-31-2011, 04:49 AM   #672
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Thank you guys for your input, here is a translation of the award document, seems to tie in with the action on the Belarussian front

Last Name, First Name and Last Name: Rahmatulaev Namath
Rank: Red Army Soldier.
Position, Part: 3rd mortar battery, 12th Mortar Regiment, 43rd mortar brigade.
To be awarded an Order "Glory 3rd division"
Birth Year: 1910
Nationality: Uzbek
Partisanship: Candidate VKIB 1943
Participation in the Civil War, the subsequent military actions to protect the Soviet Union and the participation in the World War II (where, when): The Western Front from 07. 1943. to present
Has a wound and concussion in the war: No
Since what time in the Red Army: 05. 1943.
From what RO was recruited : Prizhevolskim RO, Issyk-Kul region
Has any previously awards: No
Permanent home address, presented to the awarder and address of his family: Issyk-Kul region, Przhevolsky area Tirodashevsky village
Brief specific actions of the personal combat heroism or merit: The enemy in cross river side Sharovo in an amount of up to 2 battalions of infantry supported by five tanks, 25 February 1944 started a counterattack, pushed our troops, and penetrated into our battle formations. A third battery of 12 mortar regiment was cut off on the right side of the river Chernitsa. Battery commander decided to organize a round perimeter defense and firing of from individual weapons. Comply with the order of commander the Red Army soldier Rahmatulaev from his own weapon killed 17 Germans. For his courage and bravery in the fight against the Nazi invaders Comrade Rahmatualev Manat worthy of his awards.
Order "Glory iii class"
The commander of the 12 mortar regiment
Lt. Col. Anovich
9 March 1944.
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Old 06-04-2011, 06:54 AM   #673
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Hi Guys,

Just wondering why this OG book has no name in It,

Any thoughts ?

Cheers,

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Old 06-04-2011, 11:33 AM   #674
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Maybe it's faded, I think I see something.
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Old 06-04-2011, 01:54 PM   #675
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Thanks Marsino,

It does look like there's something there, but under magnification It's just a mark on the page,

Also if the names faded on this side of the page why is everything ok on the other side.

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Old 06-04-2011, 09:37 PM   #676
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It is possible - though highly unlikely - that it was on display for many years where the sun could hit it. I have seen that happen before to non-printed ink.

My real guess is they used an ePay "KGB disappearing ink pen" (see for yourself).:chuckle

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Old 06-05-2011, 01:47 AM   #677
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...maybe someone faded the book to make new entries matching the serial number of the order !?

By the way: has the suspension ring been repaired ?

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e.g.: there may be some liquids you can use to make the ink visible again - just ask in a pharmacy.
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e.g.: there may be some liquids you can use to make the ink visible again - just ask in a pharmacy.
Pharmacies in the US are wholly unequipped for anything fun or educational.:rolleyes:

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Try to solarize the page with a photo editing program.
Many times you can see the hidden ink. ;)
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