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03-06-2013, 09:31 AM
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Bogus Double Glory Group
Gents,
Currently on the well-known auction site. I'll let the forum's experts speak to the orders'/medals' authenticity. The group as a whole is contrived. The photo in the Ordenskaya Knizhka is that of a documented Full Cavalier of the Order of Glory who was an aviator and not an infantryman. He is not the person whose name appears on the OK. Regards, slava1stclass |
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03-06-2013, 09:34 AM
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Bogus Double Slava Group
Continued.
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03-06-2013, 09:35 AM
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Final images.
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03-06-2013, 10:13 AM
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Re: Bogus Double Slava Group
The glories themselves, as well as the other pieces as can be told from the pics look legitimate. As mentioned, the set is assembled from individual decorations and the entries in the book are bogus.
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03-06-2013, 12:29 PM
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Re: Bogus Double Slava Group
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It has heavy wear traces on the obverse and still the gold plating intact... above it. |
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03-06-2013, 01:12 PM
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Re: Bogus Double Slava Group
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03-06-2013, 03:47 PM
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Re: Bogus Double Slava Group
Guys,
The glory 2 is a painted third class, and as Paul mentioned, the order booklet was washed and filled to order. Marc |
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03-06-2013, 03:51 PM
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Re: Bogus Double Slava Group
Was the gold plating applied before or after enameling on legitimate pieces?
The gold seems to be splattered all over the banner and star. Tom |
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07-28-2013, 03:27 PM
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Bogus Double Glory Group
Gents,
I also have my suspicions with this "group." It sold for $898.00 on the well-known auction site within the past few days. That Glory II sure looks thick to me. I'm including the docs to assist in your forensics. Regards, slava1stclass |
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07-28-2013, 03:29 PM
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Bogus Double Glory Group
"Supporting" documents.
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