Please help with the markings on the chain on this dagger!

[Curator]

Does anyone possibly recognize the style of this chain, and the markings on it? Are these national markings from a fomer Soviet republic, such as Ukraine?

I will explain the details if anyone can tell what these markings are. And what is the symbol on the back of the disc that looks like an S with an line throught the middle?

I'm sure if this is from the East, some of you experts will know it. And I will then share the details from this extremely rare item. For now, I'lll just say that it is a dagger that was hand-decorated by its proud owner during the Great Patriotic War.

Thank you!!!!

John.

[EricFG]

Well, it ain't TR. The Bulgarians used chain attachments at one time, I think. I don't think the Russians did but again, I'm not sure. In fact the only dagger I have is a Swiss one (that I really like) and that has no chains, either.
But the 'C S -' mark isn't Cyrillic so....
Another hint, maybe?

[Curator]

Thank you Eric - that's more information than I have been able to figure out on my own in over a year - again, thanks for your response -- it is sincerely appreciated. Maybe we'll get there by process of elimination. (I hope.)
This is definitely a case of an individual embellishing his dagger for his own pride in it.
And thanks for ruling out Cyrillic.
John

[CtahhR]

Never mind Bulgarian, looks like a mess to me.

[Curator]

CtahhR - thanks for sharing.

John

[Jeffrey Meffert]

Might help if we had a picture of the dagger itself with a close up of the hilt and handle

[shotgun01]

the grips have been re-applied with a nail - not something done in a factory.(it looks like a relic hj knife)

anyway if a Moderator says its ok to post an image of a swastika...i think your ok to do it.

[Jeffrey Meffert]

we're not ebay

[medals73]

While in some countries, including countries where this forum is read, the display of the swastika is illegal (and that ban is enforced, much to the consternation of Hindu temples), forum policy does not restict such practice so far as I know. Maybe it was just never imagined that stuff would be discussed here.

The utility of asking about Nazi stuff on a focused Soviet forum does, however, seem dubious at best. There are many places where those people hang out. Here, people may not know or care about such things and, sometimes, may aggressively not care.

[Curator]

Medals73,
my feelings exactly.


I have collected medals and artifacts from many countries - that's why I chose "Curator" as my 'handle' - and i don't want to ruffle any feathers on this forum.

I respect and admire all history. But even in this day and age, some of us still can remember that old animosities and wounds run deep.

If I have Nz and Soviet artifacts, and English and American items as well, in my collection, I may be one of those rare birds that see all sides as interesitng and worthy of preservation. But there was so much hostility in the GPW, on both sides, that the wounds, to this day, linger on.

I think - I know - I made a mistake trying to post that stupid relic here. So, I'll make it up by posting something even better from the Soviet side next time, something to blow even the old-timers socks off!

If I'm anything, I'm lucky at finding rarities! Though you wouldn't know it from my OGPU forgery, eh? But that's what i keep telling myself.