Fake Orders of Glory

Patina is there. The dirt is gone. I thought this is forum. Am I not aloud to ask questions? As for the number, if the number is original, than this is 2nd class variation 3.

[USSR]

Nobody says you can't ask questions. People even tried to answer yours as good as they can. I can't imagine why you think differently...

[rocketscientist]

Hello! Please have a look to this presumed Glory 2nd class.
I confess having quite some difficulties to distinguish a 2nd class from a doctored 3rd, but this one looks a fake to me.

thank you
ciao
sergio

I have to apologize for the photoshopping I did on the pictures. It was the only solution to achieve a compression below 100k with still a reasonable quality and size.

[marsino]

everything tells me it is not.
Орден СЛАВЫ - 2

Originally Posted by marsino

everything tells me it is not.
Орден СЛАВЫ - 2

The Order of Glory III cl, Option 10, Variation 3

Орден СЛАВЫ - 3

[redback16]

Hi all,

Would love your thoughts on this Order of Glory. Im thinking its a 3rd class that someone has attempted to pass off as a 2nd class at some stage by a bit of alteration.:rolleyes:

Any feedback would be great.

[desantnik]

Probably right. Is the body "thick" or "thin"?

[Bill Garvy]

It appears as though a solvent used in the "gold" refinishing has leeched onto the surrounding silver creating that darkened circle of tarnish/discoloration evident around the center. I personally do not like it, and think your assessment accurate.

[Alfred]

Originally Posted by redback16

Hi all,

Would love your thoughts on this Order of Glory. Im thinking its a 3rd class that someone has attempted to pass off as a 2nd class at some stage by a bit of alteration.:rolleyes:

Any feedback would be great.

Sadly picture is a little bit blurry.

I think 2nd class in this serial number range is thick.
All Glory´s 2nd class after 24.000 have double window border.

Is there any space between the tower base and the ribbon?

Don´t like the berry´s on the left side.

best regards
Andreas

[redback16]

Thanks for the feedback guys.:thumbsup

The order is thicker than my Glory 3rd class and has no gap between the tower & the ribbon.

[CtahhR]

With so little difference between 3rd and 2nd Class I would advise sourcing a 2nd only from a trusted source.

If you see a 2nd online and think "oh cheap, I'll give it a punt" it will usually mean you are getting a tampered with 3rd or a complete fake.

Don't get me wrong, there are bargains out there, but not with the popular items on such visual display.

If you see a full cavalier set on the auction site for $10, $100, $1000, $10,000 many others have..... and know it is not worth the cash!