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Old 04-04-2011, 07:38 PM   #1
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People's Commissariat Of The Lines Of Communication Belt Buckle

Does anyone out there know just what and when this belt buckle was? It was thrown in a lot of items I bought a few years ago and I've just put it in a drawer since I had it and today I came across it and It'd be nice to have some more information on it - other than it's old, crudely made and heavy. Sorry about the poor picture but my scanner prefers 2D pictures and I don't have a camera. Thanking you in advance.
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Old 04-05-2011, 12:50 AM   #2
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Re: Unknown Belt Buckle

It's an engineering corps device. Perhaps someone took a leftover collar tab or epaulet device and grafted it onto a belt buckle. Interesting "trench art" sort of thing
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Old 04-05-2011, 01:00 AM   #3
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Re: Unknown Belt Buckle

Wouldn't it be railway? They also used this symbol and they probably had some belt buckles, at least in Stalin's era.
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Old 04-05-2011, 04:19 AM   #4
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Re: Unknown Belt Buckle

Pretty large for a collar tab, isn't it? I mean, those Soviet buckles can be pretty large.
What's the back look like?
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Old 04-05-2011, 04:57 AM   #5
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Re: Unknown Belt Buckle

Here is the back of a different buckle I found on the internet (since I don't have a camera) that has the same sort of back (except the buckle in question is flat). I also found a picture of this similar buckle on a site claiming to be offering relics of Stalingrad for free.
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Old 04-05-2011, 08:23 PM   #6
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Re: Unknown Belt Buckle

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Wouldn't it be railway? They also used this symbol and they probably had some belt buckles, at least in Stalin's era.
I would say that also...
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Old 04-05-2011, 08:32 PM   #7
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Re: Unknown Belt Buckle

If I had to hazard a guess on it's age it is DEFINITELY pre-GPW probably the mid-late 20's. It is very heavy duty and has had a good share of honest wear on it. The spanner and hammer on the front are bigger and more heavy duty than collar tabs and are very firmly attached.
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Old 04-06-2011, 09:07 AM   #8
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Re: Unknown Belt Buckle

My first thought was Railway as well.
The crossed hammer and wrench as a Railways symbol went back to Tsarist times and was continued under the Soviet regime.
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I thought when I posted this picture that I'd get an encyclopaedic answer within minutes as there are so many top folks who really know their stuff. I thought I was pretty stupid for not knowing what it was when I posted it and that someone would be able to tell me when and where and by who it was made etc. but it seems it's a bit of a head scratcher. I have searched and searched and apart from the similar (but definitely not the same) buckle which is claimed to be a Stalingrad relic, I've not come up with anything. It really can't be a one off and I'm sure when its identity has been uncovered we'll find out just how common it was. Fingers crossed someone out there knows just what it is. I suppose if we cross off the list what it can't be it will only leave what it can be.
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Kindly show an image of the reverse...
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