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Old 05-27-2013, 03:02 AM   #1
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Hello all

Fake or authentic ?
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Opinions ?
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Old 05-27-2013, 07:31 AM   #2
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Re: Fake Orders of Khmelnitsky

Concerning the rivets it is most likely a fake.

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Old 05-27-2013, 08:02 AM   #3
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Re: Fake Orders of Khmelnitsky

The front side raises some concerns within me. Especially the edges of the golden medaillon and the order itself do not look very nice.
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Old 05-27-2013, 09:01 AM   #4
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Here's more detailed photo of front.
Back rivets are 16mm apart.
Weight 43.16 grams without screw
Gold center 25mm

I need something more definitive guys

What's the weight specs suppose to be?

It looks very real in the real life , but so do a lot of fakes.
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Old 05-27-2013, 10:24 AM   #5
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Re: Fake Orders of Khmelnitsky

Hmmm... The blackside of this "Bogdan" looks suprisingly much like the "twins" in post #121... Only the serial number is off by 4... :rolleyes:
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Old 05-27-2013, 03:37 PM   #6
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Re: Fake Orders of Khmelnitsky

I will say fake, judging by details on the mace, lettering and fastening on his cloak.

Hopefully Alexei will confirm or Marc will come back for a special appearance :).
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Old 05-28-2013, 02:43 PM   #7
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Re: Fake Orders of Khmelnitsky

My personel oppinion is, I do not like this one.

On the right is an original one (s/n near by) to compare.

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Old 05-28-2013, 02:46 PM   #8
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Re: Fake Orders of Khmelnitsky

thank you for this clear comparison... this is clearly nOT the same die (see the dots on the hammer for example). I've been told of newly created dies, with a new engraving.

no need to say "I don't like " or "IMHO". This is NOT a genuine piece because ther are too many differences which do not correspond to an indentified vesrion (see mondvor).
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Old 10-21-2013, 07:18 AM   #9
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Any thoughts of this Bogdan 2nd class?
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Old 03-01-2014, 03:39 PM   #10
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Received in today's mail from a fellow collector. This piece is a fake. I will just mention a fantasy mint mark and a bad serial number.

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Any thoughts of this Bogdan 2nd class?
So ugly in every way! BTW, this would be the third fake with the same serial number I have seen.

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