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03-06-2012, 11:07 AM | #1 |
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Voenkomat Medal Ring Variations.
Hey Marc, could you enlighten us how to determine approximate production year of a voenkomat medal based on its ring? I know you have good info :) I like to compare voenkomat medals to jubilee medals in order to guess approximate production year, but I don't know how reliable that is.
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Re: How to know voenkomat medal production year
You've got the right idea, unless one could have access to the Mint archives :(
There is a clear evolution of the shape of the ring: . flat with a funnel-like opening on both sides (this is the way it was struck, it is not a flat tab that was then pierced) .. hard-angled internal hole .. soft funnel-like hole . rounded (two varieties): .. thin ring .. thick ring (several sub-varieties) ... regular circle, fully circular hole ... regular circle, noose-shaped hole ... indented circle at the base, circular hole ... indented circle at the base, ovoid hole Marc Last edited by Lapa; 03-07-2012 at 02:54 PM. |
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Re: How to know voenkomat medal production year
First type: Flat ring
. Hard-angled funnel-like ring (left) . Soft funnel-like ring (right) Last edited by Lapa; 03-07-2012 at 02:43 PM. |
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Re: How to know voenkomat medal production year
Second type: Convex ring
There are two different varieties in term of thickness of the ring: . Thin ring (sorry, no picture available at this time, but commonly seen on Long Service and Virgin Lands) [I'll post a picture as soon as I have a suitable one] . Thick ring (right) Last edited by Lapa; 03-07-2012 at 02:53 PM. |
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Re: How to know voenkomat medal production year
There are two sub-varieties of thick convex rings, each one having 2 variants:
First sub-variety: Regular round ring . Round internal hole (left) . Noose-shaped hole (right) |
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Re: How to know voenkomat medal production year
Second sub-variety: Indented round ring
. Round internal hole (left) . Ovoid internal hole (right) |
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Re: How to know voenkomat medal production year
Awesome. Great start.
Just for more clarity, could you classify the rings in my pic? |
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Re: How to know voenkomat medal production year
Is it correct? And what could be approx production year?
Type 1 - flat rings variation 1 - hard angled hole variation 2 - soft angled hole Type 2 variation 1 - thin ring variation 2 thick ring subvariation a - regular circle subvariation b - noose shaped hole subvariation c - indented, circular hole subvariation d - indented, oval hole Last edited by travel-north; 03-10-2012 at 12:40 PM. |
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Re: How to know voenkomat medal production year
Is it due to this variation in rings that help create so many variations of Medals such as Victory Over Germany which have previously been overlooked by many?
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