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01-12-2008, 12:31 PM | #41 | |
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I stumble into cloth with some expert guidance (since I can't affort metal and enamel any more), but still "stumble". |
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Medvedev was also a very famous NKVD partisan leader. I'm sure the name wasn't chosen randomly (if that's the name written inside, I can't see it completely).
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And, one more. While I generally don't much like the post-1943 neo-Tsarist stuff, this fills a nice niche in the developing collection. Navy Engineer Senior Lieutenant.
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The RCW fur cap came from me, and Its not from a marginal source at all, but rather one of the bigger uniform guys in Moscow. The Osprey book by Khvostov shows it being used by early Red Army rifle units, but i can't say I know much more, but i do stand behind it. The name is pretty common, I don't think we can draw much from that.
Here is a VERY similar cap (i won't say identical) from P.196 of "Red Army Uniforms 1918-1945" by Shalito, Savchenkov, and Tseplenkov (the cap in this thread came from one of them i'll add); the cap in the book is almost identical in construction, wear, weathering, and stripe; it might be a repro, but i do not feel that it is. I do respect Desantnik's opinion, but must say I disagree with it here. Also, here is the illustration from the early Red Army osprey book; i don't say drawings show much ( you can DRAW anything) but still, here it is; according to Khvotsov it is an early Red Army rifleman from the Taman area ( though i would guess everyone in that era was more or less a 'partisan'.) DougD Last edited by CtahhR; 02-27-2014 at 06:48 PM. |
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Doug, I don't have a problem with the fact that the cap and red strip were worn by partisans.
Again, repeating my caveat that I'm not a cloth guy, as a "lay person" I just don't like its and its ribbon's out of the box appearance in comparison to other pieces I've seen. |
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No, i know you were just talking about condition etc, i just thought you might be thinking it was a 1941/1945 Partisan rather than a RCW rifleman. No big deal! Again, with cloth items it can be tough and we can disagree, its no problem : ) DougD |
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The ushanka you show as well as the one on the drawing are markedly different from the hat Ed showed: different model altogether, different fabric... Marc |
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I did not say the two were identical if you read my post, but if you look they are very similar. I also would not call them different models altogether though just because they have different fabric. I would not expect all the ushankas of that era to be identical, would you? The two have very similar wear / weathering patterns, etc. My post was mainly in response to desantniks about condition: here I show one from a very well respected publication that has very similar construction, wear, etc. DougD |
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OK, that point I lost and now I figured out that RCW = Russian Civil War. I was thinking something along the lines "R? (Cold Weather?)".
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Air Force general.
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