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Old 10-20-2018, 03:02 PM   #1
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Badge for the funeral of Stalin?

On the Czerny auction there is a badge described as such. Is it real or mischaracterized?

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A VERY SCARCE OFFICIAL BADGE FOR THE STATE FUNERAL OF IOSIF STALIN
Finely hand-made in gold. Screw-clutch on the back and serial number "4". Mourning band with celluloid section mounted interlocking and removable. In its original box, with a red ribbon with brooch.

USSR, 1953
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Old 10-21-2018, 07:09 AM   #2
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Re: Badge for the funeral of Stalin?

https://www.czernys.com/a-86/?o=78543
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Old 10-21-2018, 09:10 AM   #3
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Re: Badge for the funeral of Stalin?

Interesting - I don't remember having seen one of these before. The black ribbon at 5 o'clock on the wreath definitely invokes a funeral memorial item.
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Old 10-22-2018, 01:43 AM   #4
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Re: Badge for the funeral of Stalin?

I am not to determine it's originality, but I don't recall seeing such badge on the photographs from the Funeral.
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Old 10-22-2018, 02:13 PM   #5
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Re: Badge for the funeral of Stalin?

It may not be Soviet - it could be from a fraternal socialist country.
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Old 10-22-2018, 02:48 PM   #6
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Re: Badge for the funeral of Stalin?

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from the ribbon, I am convinced that it is Czechoslovak.
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Old 10-23-2018, 01:34 AM   #7
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Re: Badge for the funeral of Stalin?

That could be, but the image of stalin is the same as on Soviet VoG medal. I am not certain if the ribbon is anyhow related to the badge. To be honest, the badge looks like it was placed in a box for some other decoration.
As I said - I don't say this is a fake or fantasy, but it doesn't seem to be a set with the box and ribbon.
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Re: Badge for the funeral of Stalin?

Ribbon Czech Friendship medal???
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Re: Badge for the funeral of Stalin?

Real ribbon for Czech Friendship medal, confirms my thesis?
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Re: Badge for the funeral of Stalin?

Definitely a Czechoslovakian ribbon.
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