The Soviet Military Awards Page Forum  
  • Serial Numbers Database 2.0
Enter Here

vBClassified Featured Listings
Echoes of War
Echoes of War
Seeking following Soviet campaign medals for ..,

Go Back   The Soviet Military Awards Page Forum > Soviet Awards Forums > Union Of Soviet Socialist Republics > Soviet Uniforms, Hats And Insignia

Soviet Uniforms, Hats And Insignia For all topics concerning uniforms, hats, insignia (such as rank, branch of service and cap devices), shoulderboards, sleeve patches and other accoutrements.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-09-2010, 07:06 PM   #1
pastfinder
Senior Member
 
pastfinder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: North Carolina
Age: 42
Posts: 168
New Additions, One Unknown

I just received these two patches in a lot with some basic patches today. The one is a nice search and rescue patch that lines up nicely with the one in Stepanov's book, page 35. The other is a mystery to me. The embroidery and construction all point to this being a legitimate Soviet patch, but for what I have no idea. The stitching is very similar to one of the UN observers patches (page 33 in the Stepanov book), but the border for those patches is blue, not red, nor are they circular. Any ideas folks?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg SA-USSR-Search-and-Rescue.jpg (41.4 KB, 13 views)
File Type: jpg USSR-Crest-SA.jpg (42.4 KB, 12 views)
pastfinder is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 08-09-2010, 08:14 PM   #2
deValcourt
Senior Member
 
deValcourt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Cajun Country
Age: 56
Posts: 1,565
Re: New Additions, One Unknown

Although I suppose it could be for just about anything, the dark blue with a red border suggests to me that it might be police/militia. It reminds me of the motorcycle helmet badges the "biker cops" wore. Just a guess though.:)

Phillip
__________________
Phillip
deValcourt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2010, 05:55 PM   #3
Nota Bene
Senior Member
 
Nota Bene's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: New York USA
Posts: 2,296
Re: New Additions, One Unknown

Could be a fake, because thye are supposed to be rare, but suddenly they are all over the Internet.

EGAPSS stands for Unified State (or National?) Aviation Search and Rescue Service

Alexei
Nota Bene is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2010, 09:44 PM   #4
desantnik
Forum Moderator
 
desantnik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Eurasia
Posts: 2,338
Re: New Additions, One Unknown

Neither of these badges, especially the left one look of Soviet manufacture to me.
desantnik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2010, 10:09 PM   #5
deValcourt
Senior Member
 
deValcourt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Cajun Country
Age: 56
Posts: 1,565
Re: New Additions, One Unknown

Quote:
Originally Posted by desantnik View Post
Neither of these badges, especially the left one look of Soviet manufacture to me.
I dug up some patches I bought years before I found this place and one thing I always noticed that bothered me about the copies was that tell-tale thread trail across a different color to start the letter or other object. I never really got over that and stopped collecting patches other than ones already on uniforms. I see the same thing on that first patch.:(

Phillip
__________________
Phillip
deValcourt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2010, 10:10 PM   #6
pastfinder
Senior Member
 
pastfinder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: North Carolina
Age: 42
Posts: 168
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nota Bene View Post
Could be a fake, because thye are supposed to be rare, but suddenly they are all over the Internet.

EGAPSS stands for Unified State (or National?) Aviation Search and Rescue Service

Alexei
Alexei,

I have my suspicions on the Search and Rescue patch. The embroidery matches extremely well with the patch in Stepanov's book. As for the other, the embroidery and overall construction is extremely similar to my one UN observer patch, of which I have no seen it sold on ebay since I bought mine many years ago. Does this mean it is legit? No, but my suspicion is that it is period, if not of Soviet manufacture.

Frank

Quote:
Originally Posted by deValcourt View Post
I dug up some patches I bought years before I found this place and one thing I always noticed that bothered me about the copies was that tell-tale thread trail across a different color to start the letter or other object. I never really got over that and stopped collecting patches other than ones already on uniforms. I see the same thing on that first patch.:(

Phillip
Phillip,

That white, and the backing on the patch, does not strike me as Russian or Soviet. Perhaps Ukrainian (or Chinese) manufacture. All I have is exactly one photograph in Stepanov's book to go off of and a photo of the reverse would be damn handy. If this patch is legit, the embroidery is extremely similar, even the thread count. What is off is the errant white thread. Problem again is I have only a single photograph of an original to go off of. Is this photograph of one patch out of possible hundreds/thousands or an exact representation of what every single patch looks like? I simply need more data.

These were purchased in a lot of patches that included the standard enlisted branch patches, all which are period and not contemporary fakes.

Frank

Last edited by CtahhR; 02-27-2014 at 06:56 PM.
pastfinder is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are Off
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Two other new patch additions pastfinder Soviet Uniforms, Hats And Insignia 6 10-13-2008 06:43 AM
Recent Additions ekclete Soviet Uniforms, Hats And Insignia 1 01-12-2006 08:13 PM
Unknown bayonet Nack Soviet Weapons 1 01-08-2006 05:51 PM


Genuine US Military Wet Weather Parka Rain Jacket - Size XL - New NOS Deadstock picture

Genuine US Military Wet Weather Parka Rain Jacket - Size XL - New NOS Deadstock

$52.00



x1 Genuine Vintage USGI USMC USN Wet Weather Parka Rain Jacket  picture

x1 Genuine Vintage USGI USMC USN Wet Weather Parka Rain Jacket

$15.00



USGI US ARMY DEFENDER M TOP/JACKET X-LARGE LONG OCP/MULTICAM FRACU FR NWT picture

USGI US ARMY DEFENDER M TOP/JACKET X-LARGE LONG OCP/MULTICAM FRACU FR NWT

$27.99



US Army Coat Mens Large X-Long ACU Jacket Combat Uniform BDU Digital Camo picture

US Army Coat Mens Large X-Long ACU Jacket Combat Uniform BDU Digital Camo

$6.00



US Military Gen III Polartec 100 Cold Weather Fleece Jacket COYOTE BROWN Medium picture

US Military Gen III Polartec 100 Cold Weather Fleece Jacket COYOTE BROWN Medium

$25.99



US Army MILITARY ACU Foliage M-65 M65 Field Jacket Coat Liner XXS XX-SMALL NEW picture

US Army MILITARY ACU Foliage M-65 M65 Field Jacket Coat Liner XXS XX-SMALL NEW

$6.99



NEW MILITARY ISSUE M-65 FIELD JACKET LINER QUILTED COAT LINER X LARGE USA MADE picture

NEW MILITARY ISSUE M-65 FIELD JACKET LINER QUILTED COAT LINER X LARGE USA MADE

$40.00



US MILITARY M42 PARATROOPER AIRBORNE JACKET NEW WWII REPRODUCTION picture

US MILITARY M42 PARATROOPER AIRBORNE JACKET NEW WWII REPRODUCTION

$74.95



Original US M65 Jacket Army Military Combat Field Vintage Coat Olive Green New picture

Original US M65 Jacket Army Military Combat Field Vintage Coat Olive Green New

$165.35



Military Cold Weather Parka GORE-TEX Hooded Jacket Size X Large Regular Woodland picture

Military Cold Weather Parka GORE-TEX Hooded Jacket Size X Large Regular Woodland

$75.00




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:07 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright ©2011 Arthur G. Bates III