Red Banner. - Page 7

Nota Bene · 02-18-2003, 07:13 PM

New World,

I think I should mention that I don't like the serial number on this screwback order. I am almost certain that it was changed.

Alexei

redstar_co · 02-19-2003, 10:54 PM

I purchase this group from someone who wasnt sure what he had for the minimal price. Can you please rip it to pieces for me. Dont hold back. Thanks

Karlos · 02-20-2003, 06:47 AM

This is an order of the Red Banner---looks OK to me

This is a common order and not usually faked at this version as cost is about 30-40 US for the order

Fakes for the red banner order usually show up more in the screwback variation and the multiple issues to same individual

Most common screwback fake I have seen involes taking one like yours, cutting off the loop and affixing a screwback post and changing the serial #---value for screwback considerably more then suspension model

For the multiple issue red banners (red banner with a #2 or #3 or #4 etc in the order) is to eith make from scratch or take a #2 and knock out the #2 and replace it with a #4 or #3, etc, etc--then change the serial #

A #2 red banner worth about $170 USD a number #3 red banner worth between $300 and $400 USD in todays market

As you can see as the dollar value goes up--so does the effort to fake

Prices are ballpark prices but gives you a rough idea of what different variations are worth

With the one pictured at $30-$40 USD it would be too much trouble to fake---unless it was to complete a group that was missing the red banner I have seen where serial #'s were modified to match an issue book on a group

Hope this helps

redstar_co · 02-20-2003, 11:38 AM

Thank you Karlos. It does.
And yes, this is my first ORIGINAL piece.

Hurray.!!

sovvisor · 02-20-2003, 01:33 PM

Congratulations from Sweden to a good buy. This is a perfect level for first buys. Really nice piece.
Keep on looking

Esteban_cool · 02-20-2003, 07:43 PM

A very beautiful order, congratulations. How much did it cost to you and where did you get it?:cool:

redstar_co · 02-20-2003, 09:59 PM

I only payed $10.00 from someone in Germany. Not bad huh..

alanirvine · 02-21-2003, 12:13 AM

you got a good deal!!

great start!

Alanirvine

JensF. · 06-23-2003, 04:31 AM

Any opinions on this Red Banner? Mondvor.narod.ru states the highest known serial number as 69027 and this one has 69117.

Mozzabloke · 06-23-2003, 06:04 AM

Looks good to me, looks identical to mine only mine has a lot of replaced enamel.

I wouldnt worry about the serial number either its not a million miles from the highest known.

Mark

:)

02-20-2003, 11:38 AM	#64
redstar_co Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles, USA Age: 53 Posts: 67	Thank you Karlos. It does. And yes, this is my first ORIGINAL piece. Hurray.!! __________________ Vpered k Kommunizmu

02-20-2003, 01:33 PM	#65
sovvisor Bearer of the Red Star Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Uppsala Swden Age: 49 Posts: 229	Congratulations from Sweden Congratulations from Sweden to a good buy. This is a perfect level for first buys. Really nice piece. Keep on looking __________________ sovvisor

02-20-2003, 07:43 PM	#66
Esteban_cool Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santiago, Chile Age: 36 Posts: 1,103	A very beautiful order, congratulations. How much did it cost to you and where did you get it?:cool: __________________ There's nothing in the streets Looks any different to me And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye And the parting on the left Are now parting on the right And the beards have all grown longer overnight The Who, Won't get fooled again

02-20-2003, 09:59 PM	#67
redstar_co Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles, USA Age: 53 Posts: 67	I only payed $10.00 from someone in Germany. Not bad huh.. __________________ Vpered k Kommunizmu

02-21-2003, 12:13 AM	#68
alanirvine Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Santa Ana, CA USA Posts: 39	Good deal you got a good deal!! great start! Alanirvine

02-18-2003, 07:13 PM	#61
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	New World, I think I should mention that I don't like the serial number on this screwback order. I am almost certain that it was changed. Alexei

02-20-2003, 06:47 AM	#63
Karlos New Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 5	This is an order of the Red Banner---looks OK to me This is a common order and not usually faked at this version as cost is about 30-40 US for the order Fakes for the red banner order usually show up more in the screwback variation and the multiple issues to same individual Most common screwback fake I have seen involes taking one like yours, cutting off the loop and affixing a screwback post and changing the serial #---value for screwback considerably more then suspension model For the multiple issue red banners (red banner with a #2 or #3 or #4 etc in the order) is to eith make from scratch or take a #2 and knock out the #2 and replace it with a #4 or #3, etc, etc--then change the serial # A #2 red banner worth about $170 USD a number #3 red banner worth between $300 and $400 USD in todays market As you can see as the dollar value goes up--so does the effort to fake Prices are ballpark prices but gives you a rough idea of what different variations are worth With the one pictured at $30-$40 USD it would be too much trouble to fake---unless it was to complete a group that was missing the red banner I have seen where serial #'s were modified to match an issue book on a group Hope this helps

06-23-2003, 06:04 AM	#70
Mozzabloke Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sheffield, England Age: 49 Posts: 104	Looks good to me, looks identical to mine only mine has a lot of replaced enamel. I wouldnt worry about the serial number either its not a million miles from the highest known. Mark :)

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