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Old 05-12-2012, 03:43 PM   #381
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Re: Fake Orders of the Patriotic War 2nd Class

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please leave your comments on this about this 2nd class OGPW I have just purchased together with other orders (posted soon as well) for an excessive price as usual. Beside the fact that is not a bargain, I hope it is good (have a look to the bent blade of the sicle). Thank you.

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Seems good to me. Here is a 820K to compared.

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Old 05-13-2012, 12:43 AM   #382
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Re: Fake Orders of the Patriotic War 2nd Class

rocketscientist,
what do you mean when you tell us 'excessive price'? Your order appears being in fair condition. Based on your photos one arm is broken (replaced enamels, 3 o' clock position) and its white enamel appears like replaced (from 11 o'clock position to 6-7 o'clock position). Probably its white enamel is dirty but your photos are not so good to judge your item. Your first photo was taken like a professional faker. I know you do not intend to cheat us but this is the typical way to hide arm's defects (lens is positioned on the opposite to take a photo that can avoid defects). It seems an 'innocent photo' but...
I need better photos... to help you.
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Old 05-13-2012, 02:24 AM   #383
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Re: Fake Orders of the Patriotic War 2nd Class

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Hello gentlemen,

please leave your comments on this about this 2nd class OGPW I have just purchased together with other orders (posted soon as well) for an excessive price as usual. Beside the fact that is not a bargain, I hope it is good (have a look to the bent blade of the sicle). Thank you.

cheers
sergio
Sergio, looks googd to me.

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Old 05-13-2012, 05:30 AM   #384
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Your first photo was taken like a professional faker. [omissis] It seems an 'innocent photo' but... I need better photos... to help you.
Here you go. Thank you progress for your comments.
"excessive price" means more than the usual market price. Not because the order seems to be better than other, but the auction ramped up above average quotations. As I said, it was part of a lot of three orders and I think the overall price was I little too high compared with standards.

I did not notice the problem on the enamel, I think it is just apparent, due to some light effects, I have shot pictures from different angles to make a better assessment.

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Old 05-13-2012, 12:41 PM   #385
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Thank you for your photos. Probably it was not excessive for you if you offered that money. Could you confirm me that your order's white enamel is yellowish? Another light effect? I think you should change that screw plate.
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Old 05-13-2012, 03:18 PM   #386
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progress,

yes, the white enamel is yellowish.
what is a correct screw plate for this order?
where can I find 1945 original screwplates?

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Old 06-02-2012, 11:58 AM   #387
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I am pleased to add this unique OPWII to my collection. Of special note is the strange number "8" stamped into one of the arms of a star.

I can hardly wait for it to arrive in the mail. It even comes researched!

Any clues about this numeral "8" on the reverse of the rifle butt?
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Old 06-05-2012, 06:29 AM   #388
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Re: Patriotic War.

Nobody knows exactly. Several people and books claim they are "technical marks", but without any further explanations.
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Old 06-05-2012, 06:16 PM   #389
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Interesting, I had seen them, only on ORB.

One with a K.
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Old 07-12-2012, 03:30 PM   #390
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Re: Fake Orders of the Patriotic War 2nd Class

Just received this OGPW 2nd class. Is it ok?
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